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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:13 am
by Shroomz~>
<a name="planetz-file"></a><a href="http://www.planetz.com/Pulsar/files/mus ... .mp3"><img src="/forums/images/listen_icon.gif" border="0" alt=" Song"> Song</a><BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Electronic<BR> no copyright<BR> _____________________________________<BR><BR> Right firstly it's NOT a finished track. :grin:
It's just a quick live recording from the Machinedrum with some live mutes (no programmed sequence at all) and some live FX manipulations using a Control Freak to edit the Amp simulators on an O1V. I've only got 2 hands unfortunately, so it's very sparse.

So it's just the SPS-1 effected & recorded dry on Scope @ 24bit. BUT .... I messed up & encoded the mp3 at 64kb/s.... so it's now VERY lo-fi sounding. I'll post the whole track at higher quality when it's programmed / recorded & finished.

I'd like to know if anyone likes the harsh vibe & also if anyone can notice timing drift. Tempo is (or should be) a solid 140bpm.

All comments welcome (i'm semi-expecting to get ripped to shreds :wink:

>>> ED >> I've uploaded the same file at 16 bit 192kb/s. Should sound a LOT less 'tinny' :grin:

>>> ED2 >> Now a 192k MP3 :wink:



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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:12 pm
by petal
I like it! - I like it's drive, and I find the bass getting pretty hypnotic in the right way at least twice through the track especially near the end. Sweet!
And the sound is great - I really like the tuba-quality to it.

The hats are a bit harsh - I like the sparkle of them, but they could be more pure and soft.

I like the changes and evolvement of the percussion all the way through.

I didn't notice any speed movement, it seemed pretty firm to me.

Nicely done for a live track indeed!

:smile:

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:49 am
by braincell
Can't wait to hear the finished track. It is indeed excellent so far.

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:23 pm
by hubird
only text code here (IE)...

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:41 pm
by Shroomz~>
Oops :smile:

That was a WMA I posted. Maybe that's why you had a problem Hubird ?

I'll update the main download in a minute with a nice MP3. Haven't done any more work to the track tho.

Petal, Braincell, thanks for your appreciation.

Petal, about the hats, i think in the live spirit of things I went OTT with the Amp Sim sends in places :wink:

I really have to tell you a little more. This recording hasn't even been 'mixed' or 'mastered'. There was no EQ work either pre or post record & the only processing was the O1V's Amp Sim effect in a state of live fluidity & a gated reverb which drops in & out on the O1V. It really was totally live....except..... for the little stretched, reversed & faded section *rignt* at the start. That was done post record just
to put a twisted touch on the intro of the first beat, but that's *all* that was done.
No post record normalisation etc. Just wanted to tell you a little more. It was supposed to be hard sounding & i was trying to keep it that way, so you won't be hearing any sparkley arpegios in this line of work :wink:

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:46 pm
by AudioIrony
I like the overall aggressive sound of this (not meaning it's aggressive music)
I'll join the waiting list for the finished version

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:27 am
by Shroomz~>
I think it could be pretty agressive with some twisted vocal tracks, but right now i don't have a vision as to what would go with this. It almost stands on it's own as a track that could be great for a DJ to mix, which is a concept i'm interested in. We really need to have a good ol' play around with it. :wink:

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:04 pm
by Sp/\ceR
hey Shroomz, cool track....but i told you that already :wink:

manoid

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:47 pm
by hubird
Too thin to my taste (which isn't the same as too minimalistic).
but I like the track, the style and the sound :smile:

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:20 am
by Shroomz~>
Totally agree Hubird, but thin means space for thickening :smile: Makes a remix easy too :grin:

Hey SpAceR Welcome to Z :grin:

Hope your gonna post some of those crazy sonic adventures of yours here on Z !! I know we're all in for a real treat if you do !! This guy manoid is an amazing contemporary musician !! We're honoured indeed !

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:54 pm
by kensuguro
great feel. I like it. It's sparce, but I think the sparce-ness makes it atmospheric, and underlines the evolving percussion. Could have thrown in some crazy elements, but that's taste I guess.

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:47 am
by Shroomz~>
Thanks for your positivity Ken :wink:

Much many crazynessness to follow I assure :grin:

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:59 am
by AudioIrony
I think the perceived "thinness" comes from the over-the-top hats - but as far as the minimalist arrangement goes - gets me in - I love it.
I also like the harshness of it as well, which I mentioned before.
To me it stands up as it is (a live recording). . . but there's certainly room for some twisted, nasty stuff there too :smile:

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:19 am
by Shroomz~>
Thanks again for your positive comments blgrace :wink:

Ok time to tackle the issue of the perceived 'thinness' in this track. I'll tell you exactly what is causing it (BLgrace is going in the right direction)

As mentioned, in this live recording, the MachineDrum channels were going through an Amp Simulator on an O1V. The setting of the amp sim cabinet depth parameter is actually what creates the perceivable spacial thinness with this effect (which even itself can thin a track). If you listen carefully enough you'll actually hear that cabinet depth parameter being tweeked live here & there :wink:



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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:26 am
by borg
haven't listened to a Z track for a very loooong time, but this is a nice way to pick up the thread.

diggin' it a lot, my kind of techno! will do great in a mix.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:30 pm
by Shroomz~>
Thanks Andy ! :smile:

V.much appreciated !!

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:41 am
by ___crisis___1
first off, loving the bass. it has a nice sound, almost a rude sound, to it. i love rude... the percussion seems to change up, which is good, although in some spots it tends to be a little overdrawn. maybe i am an impatient person... but i like a song to get to the point in a timely manner. i really like the drop towards the end. i think if you would have brought this in sooner, like in the middle, it would have made for an excellent break/buildup. the only thing i can really see missing is a melody or lead... or both. maybe you could have started with a nice pad melody, drop that out in the middle with that drop you had towards the end, and then built it back up with a rude ass lead? i don't know... just some suggestions.

really nice over all though.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:09 am
by Shroomz~>
.... pads & lead lines indeed :smile:

mmm ... well we'll see.

Thanks for your comments :smile:

& yes :smile: 'rude' is good !!!! :grin:

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:00 pm
by Thalamus
Hey man, this shiet grooves...Not much happening, but the sound selection is spot on.

I think though that playing with a few distorted delaylines would add something interresting

props!

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:41 am
by Shroomz~>
Thanks Noah :smile:

I like the track you posted recently too. It sounded excellent.

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