Scope v4.5 Changelog. Where is it?

phyx · Post by **phyx** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:28 pm

I don't want opinions, or gratuitous whining.

Just the tech facts.

Where is the Changelog?

phyx · Post by **phyx** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:55 pm

I grabed a copy of the v4.5 release.

The driver is the same version (1.50.12.0) as release v4.0

Creamware has some explaining to do!

A version jump from v4.0 to v4.5 is a MAJOR change, so why havn't they changed anything?

Creamware needs to set up a CVS repository, I don't expect them to release source code, but since I am a major investor in their company, I'd like them to show their work's progress.

Liquid Len · Post by **Liquid Len** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:10 pm

On 2005-12-04 17:55, phyx wrote:
I grabed a copy of the v4.5 release.

The driver is the same version (1.50.12.0) as release v4.0

Creamware has some explaining to do!

A version jump from v4.0 to v4.5 is a MAJOR change, so why havn't they changed anything?

Creamware needs to set up a CVS repository, I don't expect them to release source code, but since I am a major investor in their company, I'd like them to show their work's progress.

I wouldn't even bother with Creamware personally. Surely your lawyer should be phoning them right now.

Post by **garyb** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:20 pm

On 2005-12-04 17:55, phyx wrote:
I grabed a copy of the v4.5 release.

The driver is the same version (1.50.12.0) as release v4.0

Creamware has some explaining to do!

A version jump from v4.0 to v4.5 is a MAJOR change, so why havn't they changed anything?

Creamware needs to set up a CVS repository, I don't expect them to release source code, but since I am a major investor in their company, I'd like them to show their work's progress.

Post by **garyb** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:22 pm

On 2005-12-04 18:10, Liquid Len wrote:
On 2005-12-04 17:55, phyx wrote:
.............................. but since I am a major investor in their company, I'd like them to show their work's progress.
I wouldn't even bother with Creamware personally. Surely your lawyer should be phoning them right now.

Post by **hubird** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:06 pm

phyx, read awhyle along the different threads about 4.5

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:23 am

No, come one, we really need another mindless f**king thread.

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MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:58 am

Agree with you stardust

Too much prophets (pro 5, prophit 5, pro 12,..) duno where all these saints are. And they all sound the same to the saviors.

By the way, I thought he asked for no whining, no opinion...

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:10 am

Just to say he was the first one to give his opinion!

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:13 am

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:20 am

'ask' is a very mild description of the commandment tone of those 2 posts starting the thread...

btw there are only 2 things anyone HAS TO DO in life... go to the toilet - and die

cheers, Tom

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:42 am

4.

U also need to eat & drink or you will die

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:07 am

yes stardust, the quote is like an open door...

On 2005-12-05 04:42, Shroomz wrote:
U also need to eat & drink or you will die

that's already covered by the rule

one does not HAVE TO eat and drink, because in this case death applies, as the rule says.
if one eats and drinks, then the toilet is inevitable. Anything else is voluntary - but whatever that may be, in the end it's death again

cheers, tom

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:17 am

On 2005-12-04 17:55, phyx wrote:
...Creamware needs to set up a CVS repository, I don't expect them to release source code, but since I am a major investor in their company, I'd like them to show their work's progress.

many people in many different companies would spend a fortune if they could 'watch' their (so-called) competitors progress (or what those are working on at all).
I'd also like to know about Apple's progress with Intel based machines, because we plan a major investment... As usual I'll have to wait on the release date.

cheers, tom

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Liquid Len · Post by **Liquid Len** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:58 am

Well, *maybe* calling yourself a major investor, when you are just another customer, could be construed as 'non-factual' or 'whining'. It's hard not to smile when I picture Creamware opening up the finer details of their work and progress to the public (making a versioning repository public!), because a customer is annoyed. Did you think Creamware is an autonomous collective? You're fooling yourself. It's a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy. The working classes get screwed. Just accept it.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:27 am

Len, considering Creamware must have invested *way* over a million quid in manufacturing the current generation cards (not counting HQ bills, wages, trade show bills, misc bills) , I don't think they're really screwing anyone. It seems once more that they simply are not communicating with the outside world very well (especially the community here) I actually can't ever remember a community in such confused chaos. Well, they know how to liven things up, that's for sure !!

Liquid Len · Post by **Liquid Len** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:39 am

I was hoping people would read the over-the-top tone of the last few sentences of the paragraph as sarcasm.

valis · Post by **valis** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:48 pm

Shroomz it actually seems to me that every time Creamware has done a christmas offer or version update to the software there's been a large volume of complaining from a few existing planetz members and a few more new members. This really seems much like the same discussion that was had when 4.0 came out, and when the "ProPack" was announced (what??? only NEW customers get it for free?!?!).

etc.

Post by **garyb** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:09 pm

for those who remember...

Post by **hubird** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:42 pm

I do.