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phyx · Post by **phyx** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:54 am

Wsippel;

Someone should mention to Creamware that FreeBSD allows closed source binary only drivers.

Maybe they'd port over if they knew that.

I know they are hesitent with Linux because of their desire of copyright protection and trade secrecry.

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Plus ALSA is garbage...

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I am still working on my *bsd driver slowly. I just lack the time to really give it a go.

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Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:11 am

Worthy announcement.

Post by **hubird** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:20 am

it's probably an announcement of an opinion?

phyx · Post by **phyx** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:33 am

It was a mistake, i transposed my tabs while writing too many replies. It was meant to be in the tech forum.

Post by **hubird** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:46 am

shit happens

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:05 am

well, if it's spoiled anyway - that reminded me

tnx for that 'Whine' inspiration...

I invested time and effort
finally even cash (because I'm lazy sometimes...)

yes, it failed entirely on the application I had in mind, looks it's not that simple with non-standard apps.
I first thought it might be related to the copy protection of the installer (it's a developement system), but then it entered my mind that my main concern were compiled apps - so I built an example, run it under Win2K and moved it to the Linux box. crash.

anyway, no sarcasm intended - I'll have an eye on it, as it would indeed be nice to run those apps on upcoming Intel Macs - and yes, of course I have a valid license for that system

cheers, Tom

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phyx · Post by **phyx** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:22 am

Just discovered this;
http://www.freebsd.org/projects/busdma/index.html

Creamware should really look into this.

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:31 am

This is the second topic in which you promote FreeBSD as solution, but Debian allows for closed source software too: for example the NVidia drivers I'm using for the laptop (running Demudi). NVidia delivers an executable which allows for driver compilation, they don't give the source. I can imagine there's a bunch of commercial software for *nix which doesn't release it's source either. How comes you think that's only possible on FreeBSD? And isn't the vast majority of *nix machines running a Debian-based distribution? (Debian/(K)Ubuntu/Demudi/...) Not that I'm an export eh, but if Debian allows for closed source software, there must be others, not?

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ALSA is garbage

Can you elaborate this statement please?

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:32 pm

the driver itself isn't the 'weak link' in protecting intellectual property - you could disassemble it anyway.
you just cannot work on the GUI without knowing about dataflow and structures, in which way things are loaded on and off the DSPs, etc.
that makes it pretty open - and of course the experience could be exploited almost whereever you deal with this type of DSP.

cheers, Tom