Are more as 3 scoop pro cards possible?

SOMAX · Post by **SOMAX** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:17 pm

Hi everybody.

I have now 3 scoop pro cards and want to know if its possible to link more of them (7-13)for example.

In the manual there is a hind of it,first its stated 'you can add maximum 3 cards' next they say 'if you want to add annother card and you have already 3,contact us'

Have somebody here more as 3 cards in one DAW?

TIA

katano · Post by **katano** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:16 pm

i remember i read something like "if you want to use more than 3 cards in one computer, contact us" in the manual, so maybe you would like to ask creamware...

greez
roman

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:12 pm

a friend of mine in France who uses scopes in his studio (he throw pro tools few months ago ...) has told me that he has already seen 4 creamware cards.... Of course the stdm cable must be modified. Althouh creamware prefers to discourage a risky creamware system (more than 3), it seems to be possible though...

Good luck !

SOMAX · Post by **SOMAX** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:37 am

Thanks for all reply guys.

If any can share more info abouth it, its welcome.

I have now 3x15 dsp boards.
Iv mailed Ralf at CW,but still wait for answer.

Lima · Post by **Lima** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:55 am

If I remember well, once I've read that Hans Zimmer worked with a custom system with more than 3 boards.

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:03 am

AFAIK, Hans Zimmer's Scope system is a farm of PC's with each 3 Scope Pro cards. Best would be to wait on a reply from CW support...

Ralf · Post by **Ralf** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:30 am

Hi Somax,

when did you send your email to me ?

cheers
ralf

On 2006-08-11 03:37, SOMAX wrote:
Thanks for all reply guys.

If any can share more info abouth it, its welcome.

I have now 3x15 dsp boards.
Iv mailed Ralf at CW,but still wait for answer.

Ralf · Post by **Ralf** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:35 am

Hi,

Creamware gives warranty for well function of three cards in one system.
Here in my supportjob i heard often, that people have 4 cards running succesfully in one system, but i have never checked this for my own.

cheers
ralf

On 2006-08-10 13:17, SOMAX wrote:
Hi everybody.

I have now 3 scoop pro cards and want to know if its possible to link more of them (7-13)for example.

In the manual there is a hind of it,first its stated 'you can add maximum 3 cards' next they say 'if you want to add annother card and you have already 3,contact us'

Have somebody here more as 3 cards in one DAW?

TIA

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:11 am

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SOMAX · Post by **SOMAX** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:24 am

He,Ralf Last week i send that,and its funny,i just try to phone you this morning ,but without success

(i send you mail with all Hard and sofware numbers of the 2 secondhand cards,so you can add them to my account)

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SOMAX · Post by **SOMAX** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:32 pm

I have phoned with ralf this morning,he have told me they excist custom connectors for 4 cards,but also you can use the 3-connector cables and use them crossed!

I think i will try that very soon...

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:34 am

It is very easy to modify the STDM cables. I have done this myself - not to put more cards in one PC, but to not have the big loop on them (my home made "case" just barely big enough for the system). You just open the cable connector by pulling the small thingies on the side and sliding the top part off. Then you have a spare connector, wich you can put on another piece of the same cable - or, I guess, use on another cable. It is very easy to fit the connector on the right position of the cable. You do have to use force though, so be sure to push the top part straight down.

SOMAX · Post by **SOMAX** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:33 am

Thanks Immanuel, i will probably need to do some mods because iv now just buy a 4th 15dsp board (so now have 4x15 dsp)(with more to come!!)

can somebody give my advice,im gonna buy a magma 7 slot pci chassis,but wich speed of bus i most choose?

ChampionSound · Post by **ChampionSound** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:24 am

Are you sure you prefer cascading more than 3 cards in one system, above using 2 computers (2 x 3 cards) and link them together through e.g. ADAT?
Seems like a big risk, but I wish you good luck. I hope you don't smoke the cards like this

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bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:32 am

i don't think it is risky for the cards. It is just a stability risk i suppose. Hey man let us know if it works with 4 scope pro... and do not forget to cool your computer...

Jo

ChampionSound · Post by **ChampionSound** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:43 am

Ah okay, if it's not risky for the cards, it's worth a try. Good luck Somax

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:49 am

I'd estimate it will work rather good with a few 'monster' devices at high poly, but not with countless modules.
There's an administration overhead, that can become significant.

cheers, tom
I'd also go for it - just to prove it can be done

SOMAX · Post by **SOMAX** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:50 am

Yes im gonna try it,Ralf told setups with 4 excists and reported to work,stacking more in theory should be possible he answerd to my question.

Im would like to build a killaZ 15+ GFlops DSP combat system.

If 4 cards work i buy 1 more,if 5 works i buy one more etc...

Stability is importand,so a dedicated chassis is needed,
But can somebody tell me what for bus speed i have to go on the Magma range?

TIA

katano · Post by **katano** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:11 am

Hi

forget the magma chassis. i think you will never be able to use all your dsp power with the magma, the pci capacity is more or less 50% of a standard pci (a cheap dell in my case).

do a search and you'll find my thread about this. magma works best with one 15dsp card. more isn't usefull, at least for me. I need a lot of pci capacity as i use 24 to 30 ASIO2-24 IN and OUT modules and of course the pci-hungry P100/A100...

I have no exp. with building a Scope-DAW with server technology (motherboard with loads of pci slots etc.), but someone else may have... just an idea...

greez and report your 4 card project!

Roman

pollux · Post by **pollux** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:39 am

Hi,

I'd definetly suggest you to look for a server-class motherboard with many PCI slots (I've sawn some with more than 6).
IMHO it will be far mor stable and performant.

Good luck!

R.