mastering limiter

cannonball · Post by **cannonball** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:58 am

why not a new mastering limiter
for the platform
does we have only timeworks limiter
or i'm wrong?
somethin better than waves l2 and the others
vst fx on the market
why not an hardware emulation?

or a new sdk mastering limiter

Janni · Post by **Janni** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:17 am

That would be really cool!
Perhaps something like the L3 Multimaximizer?

Cheers,
Jan

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:57 am

Creamware Optimaster has L3 like features...

gainman · Post by **gainman** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:11 am

Has somebody around here been able to compare optimaster and any of Wave's mastering limiters?

Post by **garyb** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:08 pm

well, it's all what you like but i will say this, waves has nothing that the card's devices don't. waves is not higher quality.

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:38 pm

Optimaster is a top class device, also compared to waves VST/RTAS (TDM sounds better than the same native version...)
The only lack is that Optimster has 3 bands instead actual standards (5-6 bands: waves, UAD, Ozone, etc.)
Ozone could be a good contender in sound quality, for Optimaster, because his 64 bit oversampling engine.
Howewer I like the Optimaster character/warmth and the analize feature (that helps me to start, yes, I'm so lazy

)

Post by **hubird** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:29 pm

I discovered yesterday, working on my current dance track, that the preset 'dancemaster' did the job much better than I figured out with help of the wizzard

The difference was amazing, it gave me exactly the fatness I was looking for

Wish there were more presets conform 'moderate, steady, push heavy and stress' per group.
I know, threshhold down (per band?) is more push, etc., but a close compare would be welcom.
It never stopps...

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cannonball · Post by **cannonball** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:04 am

hi
anyway i thought about a one band limiting
like our SonicTimeworks an alternative to this great one built with the current dp sdk atoms modules, maybe a competition between developpers old and new

some differsnt and famous examples

http://www.tcelectronic.com/Inflator
or a more complex or http://www.tcelectronic.com/MD3PowerCore
http://www.voxengo.com/product/elephant/ no dsp buut works well
http://www.masseyplugins.com/L2007.html
http://www.uaudio.com/products/software ... index.html
"The Precision Limiter is a colorless, transparent mastering limiter - no upsampling is used, nor does the Precision Limiter pass audio through any filters - audio remains untouched unless the compressor is working, in which case, only gain is affected.

The Precision Limiter also features comprehensive, high-resolution metering and conforms to Bob Katz's "K-system" metering specs. Four metering modes are available: standard Peak-RMS, K12, K14, and K20. This metering allows the user to see what is happening to audio with a great deal of accuracy, with simultaneous RMS and Peak metering and adjustable Peak Hold in all four modes. With metering this comprehensive, the plug-in can also be bypassed and used strictly as a high-resolution meter."

Janni · Post by **Janni** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:11 am

I think optimaster and L3 Multi are really not comareable,just because of 3 and 5 sections.
I like optimaster very much, but if you need "loudness", like for TV and commercials waves has the tools.
I would love to see a one band limiter (e.g. for off-voice) and a 5 band optimaster version (with x-freq., gains, threshh. midi controllable! The ultimate kill-eq & mastering-DJ/LIVE tool!

).
That would make SFP go another step further for live music, I think...

Cheers,
Jan

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:04 pm

with coma-re-able you definetely score for word-of-the-month...

naive question - would it be possible to cross-over split and use 2 instances of Optimaster parallel ?
I don't have Optimaster, so it's a bit theortical, but the idea just entered my mind

cheers, Tom

Post by **hubird** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:11 pm

interesting idea!
The only minus point could be the loss of possible internal interaction refinement between the bands' settings paired as 3 and 3.
On the other hand you can try to combine different settings (or presets) together, if that's sensible at all

Compression is still keeping me bussy, with two of them it won't get easier I'm afraid

Janni · Post by **Janni** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:27 am

I´m absolute coma-able!

Cheers,
Jan

Janni · Post by **Janni** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:16 am

You can change the "split" freq. but not upper or lower end ...
The band on/off switches are midi-contollable, but not the split freq. (really cool kill switches!).
As the low/mid/hi parameter section is organized in pages (like PEQ4), also not cc-able...
Cheers,
Jan

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Post by **hubird** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:44 pm

clear