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I'm not going to the USA anymore.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:48 pm
by nprime
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:50 pm
by garyb
canada is leading the way. soft dictatorships don't even feel like tyranny until you zig when you should ahve zagged...
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:14 pm
by nprime
How can Prime Minister Harper be leading President Bush when he has his nose so firmly planted up his ass?
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:17 pm
by garyb
good point there, but there are high jinks and low jinks.
low jinks are little (actually major productions)plays that the rich put on to anmuse themselves at various times of the year, and by plays i mean broadway-style. there are christmas jinks and summer jinks, etc. jinks are always farcical.
high jinks are on a much bigger stage.....
political leaders are
not the power holders, although they do receive many perks in exchange for their services. theoretically, politicians serve the sovereign. in canada, that would be H.R.H. mizz e. in the USA that would be , well, me and all the other citizens. of course, blue bloods run the show here as well. the elite do not care if you die.
the proof of your situation is in the language used by government. the canadian government calls itself "tolerant". tolerant of what? the wishes of it's peasants? if the peasants are in control, then how is tolerance nessessary?

another happy word is "authorities", used because the "commoner" is not in charge of anything and should be ready to give up his god-given(in u.s constitution-think) soveriegnity to the state that rules in his name. that word leads to "civillians", letting you know that you are under martial(police state) law. that always creates "insurgents" which in my dictionary i read, "one who rises in non-belligerant revolt, especially as a member of a political party", basically an unarmed loyalist who must be killed as an enemy of the state, as an example. canada doesn't need these unconstitutional laws because "royal perogative" is built into the system.
the bilderberg meeting recently took place in canada and newsreporters were locked up without charges and threatened. i don't think the USA has a monopoly on scandalous behavior. we are, after all, allies and partners in the now behind schedule "north american union".
you know that orwell worked for british intelligence and the the book was originally titled "1948", right? what year is it anyway, winston?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:31 am
by symbiote
yep! we lead the way in everything. celine dion, cirque du soleil, montreal, poutine. check! we own this planet. bow now or suffer the wrath of indigestion!
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:52 am
by garyb
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:57 am
by Liquid Len
garyb wrote:good point there, but there are high jinks and low jinks.
you know that orwell worked for british intelligence and the the book was originally titled "1948", right? what year is it anyway, winston?

How were the interests of british intelligence served by the publishing of this book?
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:35 am
by pseudojazzer
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:07 am
by braincell
It's all because of paranoid conservatives and their imaginary friends in heaven. How ironic that in a country with so much technology, we are so backward.
Read ""The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. Interview here:
http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/2006 ... 00606.html
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:28 am
by darkrezin
Dawkins is an attention seeking twat. He's just a clever one... he knows that there's a lot of atheists out there, and that they will pay good money to be told what they want to hear.
Atheists are stupid... I actually find that their approach is more in tune with a fundamentalist religious person. There is no room for anything except right or wrong, no room for mystery in life, no appreciation of the beauty of creation. I find that it's a brain-dead and empty belief, just like fundamentalist religious dogma.
Still, keep buying the books and taking it up the ass

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:29 am
by nprime
I just watched "V for Vendetta" recently. Very appropriate movie for the times.
"People should not be afraid of their government, government should be afraid of their people".
(I may be paraphrasing a bit)
R
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:45 am
by braincell
There is no middle ground. It's like being partly pregnant. Zeus, Jesus, The Tooth Fairy and Unicorns are all the same thing.
quote="darkrezin"]Dawkins is an attention seeking twat. He's just a clever one... he knows that there's a lot of atheists out there, and that they will pay good money to be told what they want to hear.
Atheists are stupid... I actually find that their approach is more in tune with a fundamentalist religious person. There is no room for anything except right or wrong, no room for mystery in life, no appreciation of the beauty of creation. I find that it's a brain-dead and empty belief, just like fundamentalist religious dogma.
Still, keep buying the books and taking it up the ass

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:55 am
by darkrezin

thanks for illustrating my point better than I could have
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:59 pm
by petal
braincell wrote:There is no middle ground. It's like being partly pregnant. Zeus, Jesus, The Tooth Fairy and Unicorns are all the same thing.
But there is, it is called agnosticism. You cannot know for a fact that God exist or that he does not exist. It leaves plenty of room to be amazed about the creation of everything, and in a way captures the very essence of being religious, to believe.
oh, and nice link be the way, even though it is horrifying.
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:24 pm
by garyb
actually, those called "conservative" rarely are.
there is no "left" and "right" in politics. thaat's a false paradyme. the only political opposites are freedom and tyranny.
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:10 pm
by kensuguro
gary, there's freedom, tyranny, and something totally different..
BUSH
no, I meant the vegetative one. lol
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:17 pm
by garyb
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:28 pm
by Spirit
petal wrote:braincell wrote:There is no middle ground. It's like being partly pregnant. Zeus, Jesus, The Tooth Fairy and Unicorns are all the same thing.
Not true. Unicorns can only be approached by virgins.
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:46 pm
by garyb
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:48 pm
by alfonso
braincell wrote:It's all because of paranoid conservatives and their imaginary friends in heaven. How ironic that in a country with so much technology, we are so backward.
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Hehe (sad laugh), you don't know how bacward is the country where I live....we have some laws that even the american right hasn't been able to impose, and all this because we have this shame of an absolute dictatorship called Vatican right here that dictates the political agenda for most of our politicians.
Technology doesn't always mean culture, in fact sometimes I have the feeling that a lot of the technology serves the purpose of generating ignorance and passivity.