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I'm running Win XP. When I doubleclick on any of my Pulsar cards in the Device Manager and then click on the "Settings" tab, the word length is fixed at 16 bit.. The 24 and 32 bit options are not available.

Another thing that Neil just pointed out to me is that if running Pulsar on Win ME, "all" sample rates can be selected in the Device Manager. This is likely the reason he's able to run Pulsar at 88.2 on his other rig and wasn't able to run it on his Cubase rig since Cubase above SX v2 requires Win XP.

I'm going to have to do some bitword testing here. I'm sorta getting sick of not knowing what to expect next. It would be nice to have some consistency.

this is just the way xp reports.
it is meaningless to your work.
Neil is getting the same results as he did with xp. his clock locks at 88.2k and scope reports 96k, exactly the same in xp and me. there is nothing wrong! it's an old issue discussed many times. if there were no 24bit communication, how would cubase recognize it?

scope is not a standard windows soundcard where latency is set in the application like a soundblaster(the asio button inside cubase doesn't do anything), so the setting in the device manager is meaningless. you don't make the choice there, you make it in the routing window.

garyb wrote:this is just the way xp reports.
it is meaningless to your work.
Neil is getting the same results as he did with xp. his clock locks at 88.2k and scope reports 96k, exactly the same in xp and me. there is nothing wrong! it's an old issue discussed many times. if there were no 24bit communication, how would cubase recognize it?

scope is not a standard windows soundcard where latency is set in the application like a soundblaster(the asio button inside cubase doesn't do anything), so the setting in the device manager is meaningless. you don't make the choice there, you make it in the routing window.

<sigh>........you mean I don't have anything to bitch about??.damn dude!!!.......... you are such a grinch!!!
I need to whine about something. Things are just so friggin stable I don't know what to do with myself. Maybe when I add my 4th card?

garyb wrote:

Having used Paris for the last 9 years, I should be used to this kind of "proprietary" quirkyness as relates to Windows. As a mattter of fact, Paris has some things about it that are equally as wierd (and wonderful) as Pulsar. Actually, the Win XP driver for Paris was created through a cooperative effort among some of the users after the hardware was discontinued and the software development was put in limbo. I guess this is why I'm occasionally so cranky I'm so accustomed to things not being normal, I sorta' cringe at getting into another situation like this.

WTF isn't my life perfect like everyone else's????

DJ wrote: <sigh>........you mean I don't have anything to bitch about??.damn dude!!!.......... you are such a grinch!!!
I need to whine about something. Things are just so friggin stable I don't know what to do with myself. Maybe when I add my 4th card?

Gee, I'm kinda surprised he didn't simply say: "Well, you shouldn't use 24-bit in the first place... Pulsar sounds better at 16-bit than everything else does at 24-bit"

it was mackie who quoted an engineer in their literature for the original 8-bus mixer. "i work on SSLs all day long and my mackie 8-bus sounds better than any SSL i've heard."(or pretty close to that)

not me.

scope does sound better at 16bit than a soundblaster would at 24bit, if that works for you.....

garyb wrote:it was mackie who quoted an engineer in their literature for the original 8-bus mixer. "i work on SSLs all day long and my mackie 8-bus sounds better than any SSL i've heard."(or pretty close to that)

not me.

scope does sound better at 16bit than a soundblaster would at 24bit, if that works for you.....

Gary,

Wouldn't that be :

1. because the SB is actually doing a butchering of the sample rate from 48k to 441k during playback?

2. because the D/A of the SB is a consumer cheapie and is likely prone to jitter.?

DJ wrote:

garyb wrote:it was mackie who quoted an engineer in their literature for the original 8-bus mixer. "i work on SSLs all day long and my mackie 8-bus sounds better than any SSL i've heard."(or pretty close to that)

not me.

scope does sound better at 16bit than a soundblaster would at 24bit, if that works for you.....

Gary,

Wouldn't that be :

1. because the SB is actually doing a butchering of the sample rate from 48k to 441k during playback?

2. because the D/A of the SB is a consumer cheapie and is likely prone to jitter.?

Deej, I'm sure he was just joking, but nonetheless, this is like comparing apples to cats.

Neil wrote:

DJ wrote:

garyb wrote:it was mackie who quoted an engineer in their literature for the original 8-bus mixer. "i work on SSLs all day long and my mackie 8-bus sounds better than any SSL i've heard."(or pretty close to that)

not me.

scope does sound better at 16bit than a soundblaster would at 24bit, if that works for you.....

Gary,

Wouldn't that be :

1. because the SB is actually doing a butchering of the sample rate from 48k to 441k during playback?

2. because the D/A of the SB is a consumer cheapie and is likely prone to jitter.?

Deej, I'm sure he was just joking, but nonetheless, this is like comparing apples to cats.

Oh!!!.......he was joking??? ...well....I used to be blonde....back when I had hair.