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				timestretch
				Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:20 pm
				by cream
				Is there a plugin for sfp that does proper timestretching/pitchshifting?
Like for example soundshifter from Waves?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:08 pm
				by garyb
				sts-5000
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:53 am
				by cream
				Sorry but the sts5000 sound like sh*te...Anything else?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:51 am
				by garyb
				use soundshifter if you really like it.....
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:23 am
				by alfonso
				cream wrote:Sorry but the sts5000 sound like sh*te...Anything else?
Stretching algos are often specialized, for different sounds you need different ones...this is what you may expect from a specialized plugin. STS does one thing very very well in the stretching domain: vocal stuff.   If you also tweak the formant a bit you may have incredible results. I had a long note recorded from a female singer, very nice, long and with some very good vibrato fading in after 2 secs. Well, I loaded it in 2 instances in the sts 5000 (memory use is like 1 instance), one taking care of a full female range and the other one, after tweaking the formant, taking the range of a full male range.  I must say that I never heard anything so good. It's not for everything though.
 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:47 am
				by Lima
				garyb wrote:use soundshifter if you really like it.....
What's the soundshifter?
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:53 am
				by Lima
				alfonso wrote:cream wrote:Sorry but the sts5000 sound like sh*te...Anything else?
Stretching algos are often specialized, for different sounds you need different ones...this is what you may expect from a specialized plugin. STS does one thing very very well in the stretching domain: vocal stuff.   
 
 
I think that the STS5k is fantastic at least for another task: to change a bassline on the fly. It's really incredible the tutorial they writed in the manual: the one that explains the robot mode. In that example you take a bass loop and you can change the pitch of the single notes in realtime keeping the time and preserving the harmonic content!

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:32 pm
				by carmine
				Stupid question,
What host software are you using? I have to admit that  nothing in the 
creamware arsenal (that I've seen) mearsures  up. I would HIGHLY recommend you check out Melodyne. UN FREAKING BELIEVABLE what this baby can do in regards to pitchshift, time correct, and audio manipulation.
Carmine
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:46 pm
				by garyb
				great! melodyne is really cool and integrates quite well with scope.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:59 am
				by Stompa81
				Abletons timestrech (aka warp) seems to do a pretty nice job also  
 
as For pitchshifitng Modular  Pitchshifter is awesome in my opinion!!
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:51 am
				by cream
				I've used a Melodyne demo once but it just didn't work for me.
I also had the Roland Varios which was great in the beginning but the 
algorithms where not that great. Especially if you sample from vinyl a lot. The clicks and pops turned into weird aqua sounds if you pitched them. I sold it eventualy.
Waves Soundshifter is way better. It's fast and easy to operate and works also in realtime. 
One thing that bothers me is that I must use Kontakt to use it. ( I do everything with midi)                                            ( anyone wants to buy Kontakt 2 btw?   

I was hoping for a cool sfp device that does the same (or better) so I can use it within my sfp environment.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:58 pm
				by Stompa81
				im sure you could achieve  a timestrecthing effect  With The Flexor 3 granular modules somehow. dont ask me how cause im not too advanced with modular synthesis...yet . but there are alot of pros here who are  
