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After reading and investigating much, here's the full solution, hopefully

Mother Board:
GIGABYTE P35-DS3R LGA775 C2DUO 1333 PCIe

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/0 ... p35-ds3r/1

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/513/1/

CPU:
CPU INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6750 - 2.66 GHZ 1333 MHZ 4MB LGA775 BOX

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardw ... 50_review/

RAM:
Corsair DDR2 CORSAIR TWIN-X 2GB (2X1024) 5400C4 667MHZ PC2-540

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... CatId=1386

Corsair DDR2 CORSAIR TWIN-X 1GB (2X512) 5400C4 667MHZ PC2-5400

Video Card:
XFX GEFORCE 8600GTS UDF3 PCIE 16X SLI DX10 256MB

http://www.infostore.es/b2c/index.php?p ... d3e25f1eac

IEEE 1394 card:
TARJETA PCI ADVANTEK FIREWIRE IEEE1394

http://www.advanteknetworks.com/spanish ... fw03p.html#

If anybody wants to disagree with this configuration, please do and let me know why.

Thank you guys for all your help, your answers were of much help because they made me think and investigate into the right direction. Best regards

Who can argue with that?

That's a good solid set-up Brotha' Man Nestor.

Make sure to post it's abilities when it's up and running.

I will be upgrading as soon as I see what Tascam's doing w/ GS4. If it's a Vista only, then I will get GVI again, and make a P35 quad based Intel upgrade. My only beef with DDRIII is I hate buying that until it shows a good jump in performance. My favorite guys are Supermicro, and Intel. As there are no frills and complex BIOS's that are meant for OC'd CPU's. Supermicro just released another great looking board w/ the P35, and the fact that it isn't supporting DDRIII yet tells you that the RAM they trust is still DDRII. I wish someone would release a product that could use DDRII and jump to DDRIII when you feel the time is right. Like next summer when they achieve low latency timings w/ 1800-2000 speeds, at cheap prices too. I love the way Intel let's it's top tier vendors get early chips and sell new products while they wait and see what happens, and like a Nile Crocodile, they jump in with all of the fixes that Asus, and Supermicro spent tons of R & D cash finding optimal results w/ RAM, etc. No wonder they have the best ROI stock in NASDAQ.

http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2989



This is a good site for audio benchmarks on new CPU's, HDD's, and RAM. It has nothing to do w/ Scope's performance, but since GVI is a VSTi that will be used in Bidule, it now becomes a valuable site for this kind of cross application DAW.


www.tomshardware.com



Teach 'Em,

take a 8800 gts for better gaming experience.

Thanks for answering Jimmy!

I surely tell you how it works once its build, which should be soon if everything goes well.

DDRIII
Jimmy, I have read a real lot about DDRIII, and it will come to be “the real thing” in about 14 to 16 month aprox, as the platform is not ready yet. There are, again, BIG changes coming to the computer world in terms of hardware to be shown from 2008 and on. There will be a refurbishment of what is RAM and also video cards, always in the search for speed and power.

Motherboards
I have read an average of about 10 to 12 hours per day because I am in a rush. I have researched so much in this week that my impression is no longer the same. Reviews are truly the way to go to see things more objectively. I don’t longer think any motherboard trademark is “the best”, it is simply no true. There is no longer the best board as per trademark, as long as you compare among the most important brands of course. What I see it that it has happened what happened once with cars. Good cars were just a few ones 25 or 30 years ago, so everybody was very much impressed, for instance, by the Mercedes brand as being the very top of the line. Then technology started to be available for a much more open bunch of people, new incredible brands opened their own factories, and an extremely high level of competition started. I have had interesting conversations with mechanics about this, and when I mention Mercedes as being the great thing, they said to me: “no, no longer… it is just one more brand, there are many good cars today”. With motherboards it is happening exactly the same thing. What I believe is that there is the “BEST” motherboard for you, according to your needs, but not the best brand anymore.

Big changes to come:
There are big changes ready for the next years that will revolutionise completely, the PC market. CTR monitors are disappearing and you can find almost nothing but LCD monitors for instance. But new revolutionary hardware is already there… But as always, they need first to create on us the “need” for more, so also revolutionary software is up to come in the following years, so heavy and so big, that you will need new computers to run them, again!

Cheers

is that a via chip I spot on the IEEE1394 card?
well, if you can find a card with TI on board, spend some bucks more, as they are reported to be more stable than the competition. and they are reommended by most manufaturers of FW gear, too

-greetings, markus-

ps. I have a via onboard chip on my asus too, but then, I only use it for hooking up my external FW HDD. I don't have a FW audio interface (yet), and I'm not into video stuff...

Well, here there is little availability of elements in general, you don’t get what you want, but what there is… Despite the fact this is a supposed advanced country, so they say, it is very hard to find variety.

I would have taken the Intel DP35DP if it was here, but it is not, so the best solution close to this one, is the P35-DS3R. It seems to be a very good board.

Gary offered me to send the board from USA, but I don’t trust the handling and I may easily loose guaranty.

Fortunately, I found a good one here, they are the best in Chile, far away, but they are the best, have a look at their web:

http://www.sym.cl

Cheers

BTW: what they have there, is all you get here, period

Well… here we are… after about 5 years or so, without upgrading anything, except a death SATA drive that died on me.

I went on and bough all the parts and pieces of the computer today… When I was in front of those many boxes in the shop, with completely new technologies that just a few years ago were not even thought about, I was quite impressed!

Once I got all the items on the list and had already paid, took on my hands the precious things and went away, quite happy honestly. While walking in the street, many interesting thoughts came to my mind and so I would say to myself:

“This is amazing… I have here with me, in a simple white bag of about 5 or 6 kilograms in all, the résumé of tens of years of hundreds of technologies compactly condensed in a few boxes… It is amazing to think that hundreds of developers have been behind it. Countless nights have gone through without sleeping, harsh discussions some times disagreeing about what is best or worst for a particular purpose. People that had to learn for years and years the heavy load left to the future by yet hundreds and hundreds of extremely brilliant minds that discovered and developed before them all sort of associated technologies to go with the current standards. Hey! How much effort has been spent into this white bag I’m carrying in the middle of the street, while I walk comfortably to my home? This is amazing! I have in my hands the résumé in fact, of a century of technological efforts and knowledge, since the first ideas about electricity came out! Who were all those guys I don’t even know their names behind all this? We tend to give credits to a brand name, but the real names of the geniuses are behind. I would be truly honoured to know at least a bunch of those incredibly smart men. I feel so thankful to them! I am so lucky today!”

agree, I often also have those kind a thoughts
I was in a old studentlike-home latst winter, and a young girl, who wasn't studying at all, was really complaing about the cold in the house, with those old leaking windows.
At the same time she was wearing like party dress.
I said, do you know since when we have central heating?
Your parents have, but they were the very first generation in history - don't start talking about the Romans now ).
Hm, she mocked, what are you talking about?
So...

Cool Hubird

I forgot to tell that there were two changes in the system items, as they run out of stock.

The first one is that instate of the P35-DS3R I've got the P35C-DS3R, wich is basically the exact same board, but with E-Sata, more USB, more SATA ports, some minor improvments for video reproduction, future compatibility with DDR3 (which I don't care at all about) and of course, a little more expensive.

Then they didn't have the Corsair 667, so I've got the 800. Also a little more expensive.

I don't have time right now, to build the system, so I will have to wait for a few days, while my teath grows longer and longer fo the moment to come.

Cheers

....we are waiting

hubird wrote:I said, do you know since when we have central heating?
Your parents have, but they were the very first generation in history - don't start talking about the Romans now ).
Hm, she mocked, what are you talking about?
So...

the Sumerian elite had central heating.....

good points, still!

some Roman homes even had heated floors.
They were quite clever back then

yeah, and the snakes on a pole look an awful lot like dna too....

Ok, I said good by to my old PC, which could see my face for the last time this early morning…

I have already build the new one, along the day, reading all manuals as there are quite a few differences between the old technology and this new one, for instance, the 20 and 24 pins for the main power to the MOBO.

I did a fairly good job, quite clean. I have to say that the cables that come with the Gigabyte are of superior quality, very good indeed. Then the cables of the Enermax too are very solid and intelligent.

I called my wife, got everything ready and said: “Ok, please, start it”. We both were very happy… but unfortunately, the CPU fan, failed after about 3 seconds. It started normally, but immediately after a strong noise came out. We knew it was a fan, but as we didn’t expect anything to happen, we didn’t know “which” one exactly was the troubled.

I asked here to start again while I stared at the fans in general, and to my surprise, was the brand new Intel CPU fan… We forced switch off the computer, fearing the overheating of the CPU. Then I tried to clear any cable or anything but everything was perfect. I tried for the last time, and the fan barely moved to keep quiet forever. Of course, this took about 2 to 3 seconds only.

I’ve never seen an Intel fan failing… never… it is so strange. I know that Intel must take great care of their CPU fan, as this put in danger their guaranty. There is nobody more concerned about creating good fans for the CPUs than Intel themselves. If a fan fails while the guaranty period is on, it is their lost, not yours.

Well… the fun is not for today I guess, we will have to wait till Monday to see what we can do…

wow! i just replied to your other post.....

it's your lucky day...

i would think the shop should trade it out. i have an extra orphaned stock fan, brand new that i'd give you if you need it....

the stock fan has always been good to me(no overclocking, so...). you just got the good one. i wouldn't expect any processor damage. those cpus just throttle down as they heat up....

Thank you Gary! That’s cool… (very appropriate saying)

I have never had problems either with stock Intel fans, all on the contrary, I was amazed at their high quality build and work.

This is what I wanted to hear really, that the CPU was not in danger… Well, we tried to start the system for very reasonable periods of time, of about 3 to 5 seconds, no more than that, I don’t think either, that the CPU can get hot in such a short time. I know that some AMD do, but not Dual Cores.

Ok… I’m going to read the other one… see you latter

The systems I've build before had not these many connections. I don't have those fans or the connections to go there, look at this:



The only conected is the one I've marked on red, which is the CPU fan, nothing else... Do I need to connect the others? If I do, where I'm supposed to connect them? I already have 5 fans on the case, but their connection is the tipical four pin 12volts. ¿¿

no, you don't need to connect the system fan plugs. they are for your convienience...

That's what I understood too, that they are to sync the speed to the temperature. Anyway, I preffer to use fix speeds.

I was searching any posible mistake, but there are none...

Now, the fan could be at fault, but also the PSU or even the board... Ho well...