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USB MIDI Controller input for Pulsar II

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:29 am
by engelkott
Hi!

I have looked and searched for a solution to this problem but to no avail so any help would be appreciated.

I have a Pulsar II running Scope v4.1 and the problem i have is i just sold my old keyboard and bought a new controller keyboard...... which is USB only. Now i can't play the Pulsar "live" without having a sequencer open, which is a major hassle.

Is there a device for other MIDI inputs? Or has anyone got another solution?

Thanks for any help!

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:31 am
by alfonso
http://www.nerds.de/

They make a free software MIDI port called LoopBe1....check what do they have and if it fits your needs.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:13 pm
by engelkott
Thanks, I will check it out. :)

Engelkott

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:15 pm
by Lima
Really interesting! Thank you Alfonso!

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:11 am
by engelkott
I've had a little look at LoopBe1 but I am not sure it is what i am looking for. If i am correct LoopBe1 is a loopback device to take the midi out of a program to the in of another?

What i need is something which will make the Creamware Scope software take midi signals from my usb controller without having any other program open. So in my situation the LoopBe1 has nothing to loop back to as i can't select it in the Scope program.

So i have my Edirol keyboard and iIn Sonar it is there, as it is in my XG Edit program but in Scope it only allows Pulsar midi input. I guess what i really need is a custom device which allows you to select another midi input.

Thanks

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:32 am
by Janni
MIDI Connection Center 1.1 is what you need!
It's free, loads on startup and connects 4 ports...
you can get it here:

http://www.musiclab.com/downloads/free/

Have fun!
Jan

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:47 am
by pollux

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:47 am
by garyb
the LoopBe1 or MIDI Connection Center 1.1 use the sequencer midi source and destination modules. you may use as many pairs of these modules as you need(16 midi channels on each port).


there's no possible way for the usb controller to connect with Scope except through another program, either one like these or a sequencer. the reason is that Scope is HARDWARE, the environment is not the computer itself, but the dsp chips. the computer just loads and unloads the chips and runs the interface. a driver connects the Scope card to the OS, just like the USB controller. drivers must connect to an app, they don't connect hardware, so you need a bit of software to hook the two together.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:12 am
by engelkott
Thanks for all the feedback guys, much appreciated!

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:07 pm
by MD69
Hi,

You cloud use Plogue Bidule:

http://www.plogue.com

Not free ... but cheap

cheers

Michel

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:13 pm
by MD69
Hi,

You cloud use Plogue Bidule:

http://www.plogue.com

Not free ... but cheap

cheers

Michel

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:25 pm
by husker
or you can use good 'ol MidiOx

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:11 pm
by braincell
I don't understand why having a sequencer program open is "a major hassle" .

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:54 pm
by engelkott
braincell wrote:I don't understand why having a sequencer program open is "a major hassle" .
System resources, you have to set that up, it is an extra hassle and above all else, I should not have to just to play with the synths!

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:09 pm
by garyb
doesn't your keyboard also have a midi out? why not connect that directly to the card?

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:34 am
by engelkott
garyb wrote:doesn't your keyboard also have a midi out? why not connect that directly to the card?
Because then i have to find a plug socket to power the unit whereas USB is self powering.

If you have a car do you push it along? Why have a technology only to ignore it? :)

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:16 am
by Neutron
make sure you test all you USB and virtual midi cables etc carefully. especially for performance or recording.
USB drivers can interfere with one another. my worst one was "novation xiosynth" i had to banish it from my studio and uninstall its driver before i could get good midi timing on any of my other USB stuff, and even scope MIDI.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:36 am
by garyb
engelkott wrote:
garyb wrote:doesn't your keyboard also have a midi out? why not connect that directly to the card?
Because then i have to find a plug socket to power the unit whereas USB is self powering.

If you have a car do you push it along? Why have a technology only to ignore it? :)
first, power by USB is not some big deal and second, as pointed out in stardust's post, you do NOT have to use USB midi to use USB power. plug USB into the computer and midi into Scope. you can STILL use USB midi for your sequencer if you wish to. have you even tried this? :)