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installation the Driver a Hardware version conflict
so not working .....

Fixble: go to device manager and change the driver when using Sdk

but still no v5 Sdk
hope there will be soon

We're back to 4.5 here for now. Switching between the drivers regularly isn't something I want to do.

Even though I don't have SDK yet (it's lost in postal system somewhere between Germany and Australia ), I am ready and have two platforms on same computer.
I cloned the C drive to another disk and then cloned it again to the same disk in a different location. I tweaked the Partition Record (sector 0) to boot from the second clone and installed Scope5. Now I can just tweak the Partition Record to switch between clones 4.5 or 5. In each case the other clone is visible as a "data" drive so I can copy stuff between clones. This works very well. No messing with drivers and registry entries. Complete fallback position.

Ralf said SDk for 5 isn't public or available yet.

Eric.

eric wrote:Even though I don't have SDK yet (it's lost in postal system somewhere between Germany and Australia ), I am ready and have two platforms on same computer.
I cloned the C drive to another disk and then cloned it again to the same disk in a different location. I tweaked the Partition Record (sector 0) to boot from the second clone and installed Scope5. Now I can just tweak the Partition Record to switch between clones 4.5 or 5. In each case the other clone is visible as a "data" drive so I can copy stuff between clones. This works very well. No messing with drivers and registry entries. Complete fallback position.

Tweaking the Partition Record to switch between clones is practically as messy as switching drivers constantly. When you're working with sdk, there's times when you need to shut down sdk, load Scope to test something, shut down Scope & start sdk again. You'll experience times when you need to do that several times within 5-10 mins, so it needs to be a streamlined transition.

Hei, take it easy... now Scope 5.0 final version, then SDK and synths (& ASB) bug fix
Sonic|Core is a little (big) brand, leave them work!

I think you picked the wrong thread for a 'give 'em a break' post because nobody here is complaining.

Shroomz~> wrote:I think you picked the wrong thread for a 'give 'em a break' post because nobody here is complaining.

Yes, You're right Shroomz
I've solved this problem with using 2 separate computers.
Actually I think that the benefit of new devices from Scope 5.0 not worth tha lacks of SDK, XTC and some big known and announced issues.
Too much compromises, for now, for a good professional use IMO.
I prefer to wait a final relase or use a secondary DAW for 5.0 testing.

Me too

i have to agree with shroom it's a hastle but it pays to progress to v5
with my experience Xcite won't get you to the Sdk and my thing is really
to develope the synths so i won't give that up
by switching drivers i can also use the Sdk

( btw v5 Sdk is really a mith )

so in this hard times this is a choise cause no Sdk5

we are the developers !!

erminardi wrote:

Shroomz~> wrote:I've solved this problem with using 2 separate computers.

That's the best solution at the moment & it's a good solution for Scope sdk users in any case. 2 computers networked - one running sdk & one running Scope.

fmpsycho wrote:( btw v5 Sdk is really a mith)

What makes you think that?

they say it exist . . but no one has seen it working fully

hehe


i want to say sorry to shroom cause v5 and v4 together causes conflicys in asio

So I am Sfp 4.5

fmpsycho wrote: ( btw v5 Sdk is really a mith )

i don't think it's a myth, because i've got a sdk 5.0 key in my new keyfile

I'm confident there will be SDK for 5.0

but it's not likely to arrive "soon"...

Shroomz~> wrote:

erminardi wrote:

Shroomz~> wrote:I've solved this problem with using 2 separate computers.

That's the best solution at the moment & it's a good solution for Scope sdk users in any case. 2 computers networked - one running sdk & one running Scope.

"2 computers networked - one running sdk & one running Scope."
Doesn't that mean 2 Scope or similar cards, one in each computer?

I am effectively running 2 computers. Two separate operating systems - same hardware. All I have to do is reboot to switch between XP with 4.5 and XP with 5.0 installed. I could create a 3rd clone for SDK. That would be like running 3 computers. Each partition I boot from can see the other partition(s) as other drive letters so I can point the Scope settings/folders to any drive which contains my projects etc. or copy/move files around. Same end - different solution. Rebooting is no big deal.
I don't expect to be trying anything I create with the SDK on 5.0 yet so I will develop and learn in 4.5 only. I'm a total beginner, in fact I'm not even a beginner yet!

Eric.

eric wrote:I don't expect to be trying anything I create with the SDK on 5.0 yet so I will develop and learn in 4.5 only. I'm a total beginner, in fact I'm not even a beginner yet!

after finishing wayne's tutorial you still feel like a beginner, but at least you should have a first impression of what's it all about...

an sdk will come for sure....

thats the base for 3rd parties....

even Klaus Piehl @Messe 2008 told me that they wanna bring an updated sdk in the future.
other sources confirm this statement.

But its a small team, now they have managed to bring out xite-1 and scope v5, i guess next will be Solaris HW and SDK5.

I guess they already have an updated internal sdk or do you think SC do switching drivers in their house....?

i see no point why they should not release an sdk. Thats the base of the platform and makes it open and alive and attracts new 3rd party-devs for future commercial devices. And the past has shown very awesome free devices also.