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Dual Monophonic Playing

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:44 am
by dawman
I have always liked Analog synths because of their performing features.
Seperate Oscillator Glide, Portamento Low or Last note Legato's, and rock solid snappy envelopes.
But thankfully our DSP programmers include these features on some synths and it really helps out on the bottom end of each hand.
I tried to demonstrate this by holding down the lowest note on each hand so when I play an upper note it glides right up and snaps right back into place when the upper notes are released.
This is cool for Bass Drones, and also monophonic psuedo power chords.
In the studio Guitarists of Yore always did their droned chords seperately if they were in power trio groups like Rush, Hendrix, etc.
XOR does this really well for the distorted power chords.
Bowen synths all have the Oscillator glide now so they can do Bass and retro leads really well too with the old drifty authenticity.
MANIC DEPRESSIONS.mp3
Dual Mono Patch.JPG

Re: Dual Monophonic Playing

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:32 pm
by siriusbliss
Jim plays Jimmy :wink:

I'm noticing that Xor responds well to guitar pitchbend controllers. I'm considering the possibility of layering in harmonizing or some other real-time filters to create new effect layers when chasing pitch-bend.

Any ideas?

Greg

Re: Dual Monophonic Playing

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:19 am
by dawman
If your PBend is that accurate you could try something like this.
Have PBend control the Cutoff Frequency or Resonance of a filter, or actually both simultaneously using SpaceF's CC Devices.
Another idea that XITE-1 is good for is an old recording trick before there was MIDI, etc.
Vocalists would sing a single track on a verse, and then the chorus/bridge sections would be 3 tracks recorded on top of each other for a real natural chorus.
Lucky Man by ELP did this really well.
Guitar parts done this way were used by David Gilmour from PFloyd and of course that silly solo from Freebird by Skynard. Everything that came out of Muscle Shoals back then used this technique to great effect.
If you want to try it I will help you with the CC Devices, but here's a way you could just try it with 2 instances of the same synth for a taste.
XOR #1: PBend = 1, Portamento to 5, MIDI Channel OMNI, poly 2 unison 1
XOR #2: PBend = 2, Portamento to 15, MIDI Channel OMNI, poly 2 unison 2
Just play the synths w/o the Guitar and listen to old vintage recording trick reproduced live.

I apologize for the musical example used, but I have to play this crap to pay my bills, but it is a prime example of that sound.
QUEZEE SCHLOPP.mp3

Re: Dual Monophonic Playing

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:37 am
by siriusbliss
I've already done a lot of the layered track trick. For guitars I usually record up to 5 tracks simultaneously using layered chorusing from Digitech or Eventide boxes anyways.

What I'm talking about is being able to weave in harmonies using cc via pedals - or perhaps I'll just run an arpeggiator in parallel and use a volume pedal to weave it in.

Greg

Re: Dual Monophonic Playing

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:10 pm
by dawman
Black Box II has lots of cool stuff since Mehdi plays Guitar also.
One could have presets for certain pitches attached to an expression pedal.
But I could see holding onto to a note and bleeding in entire # 11's or 9th's....etc.
The 2 outputs are not mono either, but 2 x stereo effects can be inserted.
A pair of Echo 35's with one being like the Steve Miller Fly Like An Eagle Tape Delay, and the 2nd Echo 35 being a Touch Filter.

http://www.spacef-devices.com/index.php ... ck-II.html
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Re: Dual Monophonic Playing

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:14 pm
by siriusbliss
yeah, BBII is on my short list of considerations for new devices.

Thanks,

Greg

Re: Dual Monophonic Playing

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:14 am
by Bifop
Great playing, nice sounds ! I love the way the lines go with the glide.
What a fat bastard this synth is !

Jimmy, more ! :)

Re: Dual Monophonic Playing

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:45 am
by dawman
Another good old bendy shit guitar thing.
HEY MOE.mp3

Re: Dual Monophonic Playing

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:39 am
by Bifop
Thanks Jimmy !
Wow, there's a lot going on in the filter sweep departement here... It's almost too rich for anything else.
Talking about fat :o
Great demo !
Although, I hear you changed the phrasing on the lower line from 1'32" to 1'38". Why not indeed. I'm so used to the original phrasing that it jumped to my ears... :lol:

Have a good day Jimmy the music enthusiast !

Bifop

Re: Dual Monophonic Playing

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:25 am
by dawman
I am starting to get the Guitar thing a little better.
Actually if I didn't have to play the bass parts and use the pedals I could scream, but I am somewhat limited.
Here's an NFL Football game favorite.
In Vegas the silliest songs will get you tips, drinks & trim... :wink:

In memory of Randy Rhodes.
CRAZY TRAIN.mp3
VODOO CHILD.mp3
I am using Mehdi's AUX Delay with a Phaser in the insert slot. I have purposely used excessive effects because I just love the sound of his delay device, and live when your cabinets are 10 -20 feet apart, it really kicks major ass in an outdoor venue.