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Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:11 am
by katano
Did anyone notice that in the STM4896 Xite, there are only two meter modes left (there should be 5 according to the pci version)?
Where have they gone? Or do I have a corrupt installation?
Cheers
Roman
Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:41 am
by siriusbliss
I will check this when I get back to the studio next week, but I haven't noticed any change.
Greg
Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:35 am
by auricle
I just checked mine and there's only post gain and post inserts modes
Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:02 pm
by katano
Hi,
Soniccore is fast these days. Here are the answers from Ralf Dressel (in German, short translation see below).
Ralf Dressel:
danke, das ist korrekt, aber aufgrund der vollkommen veränderten internen
Struktur des Mischpultes technisch nicht anders möglich.
Wichtig ist, was reinkommt und was auf den Bus geht.
Dafür haben die Busse und Fader des Mixers eine wesentlich bessere
Glättung bei Faderbewegungen.
man kann einfach zum Einpegeln Post Gain verwenden.
Danach Post Inserts. Dieses Signal sollte nie übersteuert sein.
Die Faderstellung kann beliebig sein, da die Busse Headroom besitzen.
Auch das ist eine Verbesserung.
Natürlich wird man den Master entsprechend runter regeln müssen und
sicher macht es auch keinen Sinn wenn Post Insert schon 0dB sind, noch
12dB dazu zu addieren.
In den Inserts selbst muss mit dem absoluten Pegel gearbeitet werden,
da ja auch externe Geräte dort eingebunden werden können.
Short translation (sorry, bad English):
There are only two metering modes within the STMs in Xite-1 because of a completely different internal design/structure.
Important is what's coming into the channel and what's going out to the busses.
Instead, the busses and channels have an increased level of smothing when moving faders.
To level out the channels, one should use "post gain", afterwards "post inserts". the post insert level should never be overdriven.
The position of the channel faders can be arbitrary, as there's some new headroom functionality in the busses.
Of course you have to take down the master fader to match and of course it doesn't make sense to add 12db within the channel, when the post insert level is already at 0db.
workin with absolute levels within the inserts is the way to go, as there's also the possibility to embed external hardware.
Cheers
Roman
Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:57 pm
by Gordon Gekko
katano wrote:Hi,
Soniccore is fast these days
good for you, but I can assure you they are not in some other cases, i've been trying to get scope 5 keys at
register@soniccore.de or Ralf to no avail... 3 emails in six months just haven't been responded to. But i agree Mr. Dressel is pretty responsive
edit: fixed the wrong address
Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:17 pm
by garyb
perhaps the wrong address?
register@soniccore.de
Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:24 pm
by Gordon Gekko
nah that was a typo. but now that i'm more interested i'm gonna keep at it, sorry for the thread hijack
Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:31 pm
by garyb
perhaps the spam filter? maybe sending from another address might work....
Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:09 pm
by Gordon Gekko
well they do send newsletters to that address

and i've been recieving mails from them over almost a decade... i can't even begin to think that they lack the organization... not to mention the sale lead potential lost. ok i'm gonna try from my work address
Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:55 pm
by garyb
Gordon Gekko wrote:well they do send newsletters to that address

and i've been recieving mails from them over almost a decade... i can't even begin to think that they lack the organization... not to mention the sale lead potential lost. ok i'm gonna try from my work address
it's easy for a hyperactive spam filter to make trouble....can you imagine the sheer volume of spam that would flood an address like that?

Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:13 pm
by Gordon Gekko
you are a dedicated man gary, i respect that. hey maybe you could help?

Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:18 pm
by garyb
probably...
send me your info and keyfile. i'm in no way S/C, but i'm sure i can make it happen for you.
dedicated? maybe, i don't get anything from cheerleading or problem solving, but Scope is such a cool thing, i try to do my part to keep it a reality. the forces working against a small company in this business climate are pretty powerful.
Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:07 pm
by dawman
I am a sneaky Bastard as well as a FAT BASTARD so I always use the word Re: on any email to ensure it's entry through Spam filters...
I have recieved 2 emails from Ralf just today which were a response to an email on another topic I sent yesterday.
But now I use every email w/ Re: Bruda Mann Ralf........

Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:31 am
by Gordon Gekko
Thanks gary, i'll try to solve this on my own and get back to you if i continue to miserably fail

Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:47 am
by Gordon Gekko
got 'em
i've part of the responsibility as the scope.rgy file i sent them was corrupted, and they seem to have a server handling part of the process automatically... maybe it was not equipped to deal with the rainy day scenarios before. sorry SC, and keep up the good work
now onto a wrestling match running win 7 on a 5 year old laptop

Re: Not all meter modes available in STM4896 Xite
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:25 am
by katano
let's get ready to rumble
