Potential buyer's questions

[garyb]

yes, it can.
yes, you probably can get it. you need to contact SC directly.
i could easily see SC being interested in working with you. people with your qualifications are always needed(imo).

[garyb]

sure, but it's not my decision in any way.

[tlaskows]

Just beware that you cannot write custom code yet, but the word is it will be possible soon...

This is the best system if you want to develop in real time.

-Tom

[tlaskows]

Don't worry.

They understood my poor English just fine

But this is a steal. You've done DSP so you know how much the stuff costs. Probably a grand for a 1 chip dev board. You gotta pay 5000 for the complier. So yeah, doing development on Scope is a whole lot cheaper and more fun...

-Tom

[tlaskows]

I tried and tried to find an affordable DSP board, but I will not code in assembler. Waste of time. I got an FPGA board for free a long time ago and wrote a bit of verilog. No rocket science. Implemented SID style oscillators and controlled them through a serial port using a terminal. Yeah, that was a long time ago. I have a lot of books on DSP. Probably about 10 of them. Some of them are impossible to read. I prefer the ones with examples.

So right now I have 45 66MHz Sharcs and the SDK. Total cost was around 2000$. That's a steal any day of the week!

-Tom

[tlaskows]

I though an analog synthesizer was basically an analog computer. Yes, I know what an analog computer is. According to my research a long time ago, they used them to guide missiles. I took computer architecture, but that was a long time ago. I really don't remember much. They made us write microcode on the final exam. Yes a whole lot of fun. I don't understand why they made us do that, I signed up for mathematics, not implementing CPU instructions. Nevertheless, no one was able to finish the final exam in time. They pretty much bell curved every exam/test. So if you did really well, your mark would actually go down!

School was a waste of time and money. Everything I know, I've learned from research and playing around on my own.

-Tom

[tlaskows]

Yep,

I started to tell people to give me a take home test to actually see if I can do the job.

Why do you need to know how many years of experience you have in X and Y? It's not applicable. I can google and find the solution in less than a minute and spend a few more minutes on making it more efficient. There are some tutorials out there for iOS/Objective-C code that I was able to do in about 1/2 the lines of code. Why make your life complicated?



-Tom

[jksuperstar]

In all honesty, its the real good DSP programmers that will always have assembler in their pocket. Knowing assembler means knowing the instruction set and the architecture, and that's the only way to really map any intended math into a processor, especially with efficiency. Trusting tools to do the job for you isn't good practice. And it's the difference that makes us all like S|C and creamware over native stuff. Intel has obfuscated their cores so no one could really understand or control them, and then you have to get through an OS anyways. That's why U-he and such can bring a 4GHz processor to its knees, and your 66Mhz DSP can run Solaris.

[tlaskows]

Yes, 16 voice 4 Divas is all I can run on my 4.6GHz i7. After loading more, I start hearing crackling

I can load 7 6 voice Minimaxes on my 3 PCI boards and the all play with no glitch in real time. And these cards are really old.

-Tom

[astroman]

for the part of your goals mentioned above I agree...
FFT reads memory related - the weak side of 'legacy' Scope (21065 Sharcs, PCI bus)
but you may totally underestimate the quality of Scope's basic 'library' of DSP atoms (as it's called)

there have been several attempts with low level code, which all ended in crap (afaik)
people frequently requested this feature, most likely assuming mediocre 'stock processing'
in fact it's probably the most sophisticated DSP stuff ever written for a PC platform

may lacks the fancy names UAD can use to label their stuff
and it had this PCI bus weakness due to low amount of local memory on the cards...
but everything else is on a damn high level, and has been for at least 10 years
the Flexor modular synth is a good example how far you can get with just the basic math modules

for convenience I do most stuff on an iPad today, but there is not a single app out there that can fake Scope's sound
UAD uses the same DSPs, but has a different sound - to my ears it often sounds more like IOS
(there are some excellent synth and fx apps under IOS - which is no contradiction: the sound is simply different)

for large scale matrix processing you're probably bound to custom stuff anyway, but I just wanted to mention this

cheers, Tom

[tlaskows]

Where do I find these 'atoms'? All I can see in the SDK is modules...

Thanks,

-Tom

[astroman]

it's the content of the DSP folder in Scope's bin directory
('atom' ist just a name)

cheers, Tom

[zerocrossing]

What I want to know is how does anyone do anything outside the time domain? Are you a time lord?!

[tlaskows]

Yes, like a 64 band linear EQ. But it will have a small delay

-Tom

[tlaskows]

Ohhhh, getting fancy here

-Tom