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Somewhat off topic. Did these guys copy the SC website?

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:45 am
by summer
By doing a video search for JEROEN J. VERMEULEN who is quoted on the SC pages

https://www.google.com/search?q=JEROEN+ ... 20&bih=992

https://startup-rheinland.de/index.php?id=1579&lg=en

The resemblance is there https://startup-rheinland.de

Re: Somewhat off topic. Did these guys copy the SC website?

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:12 am
by petal
It sure looks like the "startup" build their new site using the code from SonicCore's website.

I wonder if there is a good explanation other than theft?

Re: Somewhat off topic. Did these guys copy the SC website?

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:50 pm
by valis
Digging around a bit:


Whois Record for Startup-Rheinland.de

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IP Address	217.160.0.194 - 14,693 other sites hosted on this server 
IP Location	Germany - Baden-wurttemberg - Karlsruhe - 1&1 Internet Se
ASN	Germany AS8560 ONEANDONE-AS Brauerstrasse 48, DE 

Whois Record for Scope.zone

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IP Address	217.160.0.168 - 13,791 other sites hosted on this server 
IP Location	Germany - Baden-wurttemberg - Karlsruhe - 1&1 Internet Se
ASN	Germany AS8560 ONEANDONE-AS Brauerstrasse 48, DE
Different ip addresses for the public frontend, but clearly on shared hosting that may have some configuration issues? Both sites are using Joomla as the CMS and the header for the startup-rheinland.de even shows:

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      /  ___/ | | /  ____>           
      \___ \  | | | |               
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Copyright 2019 Sonic Core GmbH, Germany.
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Re: Somewhat off topic. Did these guys copy the SC website?

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:40 pm
by garyb
i'll pass this along....

Re: Somewhat off topic. Did these guys copy the SC website?

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:12 pm
by dante
He's quoted on SC site and a Scope On Mac user : https://www.scopeusers.com/ScopeRise/is ... s_mast.htm

Re: Somewhat off topic. Did these guys copy the SC website?

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:28 pm
by garyb
hahaha! yes, i'm sure there is a good reason...

Re: Somewhat off topic. Did these guys copy the SC website?

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:41 am
by summer
@valis my guess is that somebody who had direct access to the site+database did a one-to-one copy and then modified it. that would explain why some remnants from the old site are still indexed by google but not necessarily linked to from within the site.

Re: Somewhat off topic. Did these guys copy the SC website?

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:07 am
by valis
Quite possible, though silly.

Re: Somewhat off topic. Did these guys copy the SC website?

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:29 pm
by Marco
Are they stupid? They can''t steal SC's Design!

Re: Somewhat off topic. Did these guys copy the SC website?

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:28 pm
by garyb
yeah, that was a database error...

Re: Somewhat off topic. Did these guys copy the SC website?

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:57 pm
by valis
Seemed likely. The IP's are different but it's essentially the same rack behind them all.