Windows 11

[medway]

Any idea if v7 will be compatible with Windows 11?

(The following is via Valis making an administrator edit for your edification:)

Win11 DOES work just fine with Scope 7, and there seems to be no issue with PCI slot support or legacy hardware as far as I can tell. With both Win10/11 I do almost none of the BIOS and Windows tricks that we've had to do in the past, so i see little reason to worry about Win10's impending demise.

I post instructions that should work for Win11 on legacy hardware on page 2 of this thread, in this post: viewtopic.php?p=358685#p358685. Note that this is a good way to also install a stripped down version of Windows 11.

[dante]

Doubt if anyone here has tested it. Email support & ask if Holger has. Likely it will work though.

[valis]

I haven't read much that indicates anything affecting Scope would change drastically. The biggest issue is going to be platform support that also includes PCI support, as there's a few restrictions on CPU compatibility and motherboard implementation of things like TPM 1.2/2.0 support. In almost all cases, things can be made to work with the right EFI/BIOS settings but that might require a BIOS update in some cases.

I also wouldn't use the Win 11 preview to evaluate whether a machine will work, as they are making the hardware requirements more restrictive right now. The same goes for the tool that lets you know if your system is compatible, it currently will reject systems based on above criteria that can still be made to work on final retail.

On the plus side, they're making it 64bit only which should make the install a bit lighter for most of us. On the downside, the home version of the OS is a realtime installation from the internet at present, which is less than ideal for those on metered plans or with slow remote access.

[mausmuso]

I can see this becoming a real problem down the track.
I checked my 2 DAWs and neither are compatible with win 11, 'secure boot unsupported'.
We may be able to live with win 10 for some time to come but eventually we will need to upgrade, you can bet on it.
I see Win 10 is somewhat capable of a motherboard change without reinstall but will the scope drivers like it, who knows!
My PCs are choc full of apps, plugins, sample libraries and tools to rebuild would be a complete f*ck.
I might try a motherboard change on my second machine and see how that goes.
A complication with that machine is it is a 32bit win 10 PC, so I anticipate that will not likely go well with a win 11 upgrade even if I can get win 10 32bit working on a new Mobo.
Has anyone as yet looked into options for win 11 capable mobos with PCI/PCIe compatibility for scope cards?.
My current main PC has an MSI X58A-GD65 board which does not support secure boot.
Like death and taxes, this day was always coming.
maus

[valis]

Win10 support end in 2025, they will exist in parallel and it’s the other (newer) machines in your workflows that will be used to yoke you into our cloudy digital futures…

[Bud Weiser]

SCOPE PCI and SCOPE XITE should run (standalone) on Linux in future.
Cockos Reaper does already and will improve by the time.

I´m already not happy w/ Win10, except for office purposes,- and I´ll try to avoid Win11 and all that cloud-crap as much as I can.

Back to the roots.
Again more carefully assorted hardware instruments instead native plugins, a DAW app for recording and editing audio/MIDI,- and SCOPE.

I don´t see why I´m not be able to make almost any music I like w/ such rig, especially not when we´d get 64Bit-improved sampleplayers w/ SCOPE 7.1.

Bud

[mk_vip]

Win10 support end in 2025

In my main machine I use Windows 10 LTSC 2019, and it will be supported by Microsoft until 2029 as it "Long-Term Servicing Channel" Windows 10 Enterprise version.
This system is faster than ordinary Win 10 Pro or Home in DAWs and even in games, as it has no Microsoft Store and Cortana inside the system.
More free ram to use and less cpu utilization.

[valis]

Nice, now let's discuss how we can all access LTS versions without an enterprise contract so we can all benefit

[fidox]

Since this computer isn't my main audio workstation I have little played arround
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xmathUPqvc

Not sure what is now different beside windows version name

[valis]

LTSC would go beyond 2025, so looks like you're set

[sodiumcycle]

It works fine on Windows 11 for me. I am using an Asus B350 Prime motherboard with a Ryzen 3600 and the latest developer preview.

If any problems are encountered during install, install in 8.1 compatibility mode. Everything should work.

[nitri]

Linux please!!!

[jksuperstar]

With WSL (windows Subsystem for Linux) that might actually make sense now.

[valis]

From a workflow standpoint WSL seems up to most tasks now, I wonder how it fares for audio under Windows hypervisor.

[valis]

From Arstechnica.com: Windows 11 ISOs make it easier to test the betas with a clean install

[valis]

Short/easy article on bypassing TPM 2.0 requirements (and ram etc requirements)

[cortone]

Some articles about building an ISO for Win11, including how to bypass TPM if your system doesn't support it.

https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/cle ... windows-11

https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/byp ... equirement

[valis]

O&O ShutUp10++: Free antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

[dawman]

It works fine on Windows 11 for me. I am using an Asus B350 Prime motherboard with a Ryzen 3600 and the latest developer preview.

If any problems are encountered during install, install in 8.1 compatibility mode. Everything should work.

Good to know.
Does the B350 have a TPM module?

[DavidWinters]

Some articles about building an ISO for Win11, including how to bypass TPM if your system doesn't support it.

https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/cle ... windows-11

https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/byp ... equirement

These are very informative articles that are shared here. Also I found this article online that might help how to open this file in Win 10.