Fantastic CW site - Namm brochure, optimise tips --- but in

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Wed Mar 20, 2002 4:50 am

http://mao.musique.free.fr/

... et je ne lis pa des Francais !

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Wed Mar 20, 2002 5:31 am

It is very well done! And very complete!

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Wed Mar 20, 2002 6:53 am

Nice place!

John Cooper · Post by **John Cooper** » Wed Mar 20, 2002 9:04 am

I was excited to go see what the French CW brochure looked like.

I was extremely miffed to see that it's all my scans (which took me a fair bit of time to do, with photoshop touchups, etc). I've sent email to the site admin to tell him to ASK next time before swiping content from here.

-jc

RedSun · Post by **RedSun** » Wed Mar 20, 2002 3:02 pm

I remember this site from some previous post. It has very interesting content but I just hate the navigation.

RedSun .:.

mano · Post by **mano** » Wed Mar 20, 2002 6:34 pm

ouch very bad design (sorry dont mean to be a party pooper)

its cool that they have a *real* forum over there (versus the very limited one on creamware)

coc999 · Post by **coc999** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 11:06 am

hi,i live in Paris so reading french he he.
I must say that i 'm gone 2 or 3 times on this site,but i agree with redsun i don't like
"la navigation" and i prefer to be around there cause it is different.Definitly Respect to Monsieur J.Cooper:)

doodyrh · Post by **doodyrh** » Fri Mar 22, 2002 1:55 pm

"FLASHER LE BIOS!" indeed.
I won't be jumping ship just yet.

AQUELAR · Post by **AQUELAR** » Mon Mar 25, 2002 3:26 am

What do you mean?

I think it's always good to get
different forums as it multiplies chances
to get an answer and I have to say till now
I've always get answers from Mao Musique:
even to my topic "FLASHER LE BIOS!".

But even if french is my mother langage
I keep reading both sites.

Regards,

castol · Post by **castol** » Mon Mar 25, 2002 7:46 am

too many animations = slow navigation. that floating menu bar is something i've never seen before....again very slow on my machine.

i think planetz has one of the most eye friendly color schemes i've come across online. the layout is really nice as well. john's done a great job here. groups.yahoo and creamware i check occasionally....but they leave a lot to be desired. i am getting fed up with yahoo's rampant advertising....true you can get messages via email with no ad's, but i don't like to fill up my mailbox with lots of email, i'd rather just read them online.

this is what free services are turning to more and more. rampant corporate advertising (generalizing a bit).

i understand developing and maintaining such sites is costly and enduring, i just wish there were a better solutions to getting some funding.

i mean if the advertisements were not from scum sucking leperous companies i wouldn't mind. i might even find them interesting and usefull. tv commercials are annoying, but at least they have proved (to me) to be a medium where onecan (not allways) portray something in an intelegent, comedic valued, and bright manner. protraying genuine non-gimicky stupid products or services (again, not all the time).

don't get me wrong i don't enjoy watching commercials or anything! i just think that some of them are really well thought out, and strike a haromonious note in me.

online advertising is like stuck in the gutter, its terrible.....will it improve?

mp3.com is probobly the best or worst depending on how one looks at it, example....gah (choke!)....

that bit about cw biting your images sounds like a VERY poor decision on cw's part.

would leave a very bad taste in my mouth.

[ This Message was edited by: castol on 2002-03-25 07:47 ]

doodyrh · Post by **doodyrh** » Mon Mar 25, 2002 1:40 pm

On 2002-03-25 03:26, AQUELAR wrote:
What do you mean?

Salut AQUELAR et desolé
C'était seulement le titre qui m'a fait rire un petit peut.
I didn't read the thread but it reminded me of an Englishman pretending to speak French. My humour doesn't travel very well and I was probably under the influence of a Bordeaux at the time.

The layout made me a bit nauseus though and I could only close the floating menu with Task Manager, bringing down all my other IE windows. The thing I liked though was that the forum was busy - about 12 posts the day I looked. PlanetZ probably has more but, for me, split into too many sections which prevents it achieving a critical mass.

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Mon Mar 25, 2002 2:42 pm

Good point Castol. And how does John support this forum and pay for the bandwidth ? A community service ?

ps: I absolutely detest intrusive ads with all my being

AQUELAR · Post by **AQUELAR** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:51 am

I think it's good to know they're so
many people involved into creamware's world
through different forums.

Even if everyone has its own opinion,
everybody should be happy being able
to navigate through those forums.

Good job everybody.

Regards,

Ed,
Brussels,

coc999 · Post by **coc999** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:38 pm

Maybe,useful for some french guys-there is a cw france named member who is helping very well(to my opinion very simple and clear).That is pretty good thing for french users wich are going there.(for the rest i stay around there,pz friends.
ps/Hope it's not a french mythomaniac who takes cwfrance name:) he he who knows?

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Wed Mar 27, 2002 5:02 am

Yes, they are real, they even have a nice show room, i whent there before. Them guys at CreamwareFrance are very helpfull and entousiast.

John Cooper · Post by **John Cooper** » Wed Mar 27, 2002 9:11 am

On 2002-03-25 07:46, castol wrote:
that bit about cw biting your images sounds like a VERY poor decision on cw's part.

would leave a very bad taste in my mouth.
n 2002-03-25 07:47 ]

Sorry if I wasn't clear on that-- It wasn't CW that took the images- it was the MAO site saying they had the "NAMM brochure... in French", and it turned out that they had just copied all of my scans (of the english brochure) from this site, and put it on their site. Not really a big deal - it's not like it was original work on my part to scan and touch up the CW brochures, but I don't think it's particularly cool to take and reuse *any* content from someone else's site without asking the site admins first.

-John

John Cooper · Post by **John Cooper** » Wed Mar 27, 2002 9:14 am

On 2002-03-25 14:42, Spirit wrote:
Good point Castol. And how does John support this forum and pay for the bandwidth ? A community service ?

Yeah, pretty much a community service. I do get a bit of income from orbitone and planetz devices - almost enough to cover expenses, but I don't really think of it that way, since as you've pointed out, I'm not blatantly advertising my products here... Probably many people don't even know that I'm part of <a href="http://www.orbitone.org">orbitone</a>, or that I sell some devices at http://www.planetz.com/Products.html

Oops, was that advertising? Sorry!

-John

dbmac · Post by **dbmac** » Wed Mar 27, 2002 12:16 pm

And fine devices they are.

Post by **hubird** » Wed Mar 27, 2002 6:02 pm

and fine John he is...

[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2002-03-27 18:03 ]

Post by **hubird** » Wed Mar 27, 2002 6:07 pm

dbmac, does that mean decibel on mac?