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We think it's worth a new upload, because arrangement, sound and mastering are mutch better now!

Any comment welcom!

Let There Be Music!


21-05-04/ edit: this song will be released on a Polish mix cd with ambientlike dance stuff, I'm not having much details at the moment, but I do know that Samplaire also will have a track on it
I'm very happy with it of course



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2004-05-21 08:59 ]</font>

Hi Hubird

This song sounds wicked. I love the pumping bass and drum combination There's definitely more intensity in this mix. Keep up the good work.

cheers ZA

Wow! Amazing piece of music you made here!
Really orignal track, beautiful sounds, great beats, and very nice production too. I'm impressed.
So any info on how you did it? Show me!

Yeah....what he said!

This is a great great piece of work. Sounds wonderful.

I am curious too.....which CW devices did you use?

Cheers

Thanks for your nice words, you all. Encouraging!

Actually this was the first serious project I (we) did with Cubase and Pulsar, therefor I did not use any Pulsar synth or sampler.
I just used the bigmixer and lots a plugs like delays and Master Chorus etc.
Have more trust and respect now for the Pulsar-Creamware qualities.

Also Cubase had a big deal in mixing, with many fx, eq and stuff like the Orange vocoder, NorthPole, LM4, GRM tools, etc.

Paul and I said to each other, this song can only get somewhere if it sounds good.
We think it's hard to put it in any today style, so it had to sound good on it's own, to have a chance.

That's why it has that mixing sauce, due to extremely intensive eq-ing, precisely placing the stuff in the deepness in mix, etc.

And still I'm not satisfied, coz something went wrong with the track with the bounce of all the ridm parts, to far away in the mix now.

I tried today to compress and limit (Waves) that track, amazing difference!
I learned sub-mastering
Sounds mutch steadier now, I will push up the drive bass synt a bit to compensate, the track will get mutch better when masterd I think.

But hey we will not post this mix for the third time, I promise.
If you have any concrete question about the mix, I will tell you exactly what we did.

About some instruments:
The guitar like lead part is made by combining the Kurzweil K2500 sampler/synthesizer and the Access Virus-A..
We didn't use the Kurzweil as sampler.
We just took the preset Matchstick and combined this with a spinet like Virus sound, for the ringing noise around the notes of the simple Matchstick sound.

The ridms are build around a simple but fat breakbeat loop.
Some percussion samples (in the mac)
and little fragments from a djembe loop are used as fills.

The voices are coming from The World of Afrika cdrom, but heavily cutted and processed with eq and fx (dist, delay, etc).

Thanks again, h.

Let There Be Music!



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2002-05-05 18:21 ]</font>

yes,nice!

I missed it! How could I? I've been listening to the song three times in a loop now and it's great

very well, well, well...

Nice song ,very entertaining!

Hi, good sound and rythm, ambient a litle bit streseed but this is make much more interesting.
Congratulations good work.
(Sorry for my poor english language domain)

Well, I caught myself dancing through my studio, that happens not often. Music is a drug.

Some elements could be more separated in the mix for my taste, so only nine points to the netherlands from me.

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But nice floooooring stuff you´ve made here.

Me myself I always find an element in a song that catchs me. In this example this is the drums but also (or in the first place) the bass sound is soooo goooood that I'm becoming jelous it wasn't me to find it

Chris, you're right, me too I'd like the mix a few procents opener or more separated in it's elements.
it was a trouble thing to get the mix as it is, I almost got drowned in it, so I'm happy with the final result, a 9 is very ok
Ha, great smilie, what the h*ll did you get that from, thanks anyway, it's a beauty

Sam, you do me a great favor by loving the bass sound
Now that was a head breaker, I've tried soo long to find the right part and specially the sound...
It ended up with two identical bass lines with different sounds, one clean, bassy and punchy, and one with alot distortion, softly mixed in.

Jeez, dj Paul who's cowriter of the song, is a lucky bird, in fact it's his first song seriously made and finished, and he already gets a releasy from it...
Sóme people...

Thanks everybody for the nice words

Hi

particularly like the drums.Cool track.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Liquid EDGE on 2004-05-21 09:58 ]</font>

Nice mix!
what is "sub-mastering" ?
I could learn that too.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: spacef on 2004-05-21 10:04 ]</font>

On 2004-05-21 10:03, spacef wrote:
what is "sub-mastering" ?

mainly blabla of me, but I just was talking about taking all ridm parts together and give them a separate kinda premastering.
This way I was able to keep the drums up in the endmix with all the verbs and delays
I always was afraid a bit to use compressing and limiting technics on smaller parts of a song, but this time I had to.

This song just came too late (actually too early!) to apply the Transient Designer on the drum parts.
I use this often nowadays, as an alternative, it's a way to get things in front of a mix without pushing them too hard with compressing.
That compression will come anyway in the mastering, so...

Adventage of using the TD:
you keep extra room for the melodic/harmonic content, or for overall suggested emptiness, if you know what I mean.

I tried it this way in my more recent song 'Identify', you can find it on planetz.
In fact, compressing makes the sustain of a sound louder, while the TrDesigner specially makes louder the attack part, therefor softens relatively the sustain part.
Both opposit technics are good to put things in front, which is funny in a way
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Let There Be Music!



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2004-05-21 20:25 ]</font>

Wonderful track and one that I know I'll keep coming back to.

I wish you all the best for the final release.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers

ok thanks for the explanations. For one or two years now, I often have to sub-optimasterise a drum group (kick+hats+snare) to give a "bouncy" feeling (but to undo, it is quite difficult, so it stays "live" until the last moment). kick&bass can be good, but tricky as to excess of sub-basse , or the result feeling a bit "squashed" (or like mashed potatoes) or muddy. Will test with TD next time...

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: spacef on 2004-05-22 06:59 ]</font>

Nice job ! Nothing but normal to be released

Keep the good work......

This sounds awesome! Everything nicely balanced. Excellent!