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I´m thinking about to leave SX.
There are too many bugs inside!
The big end:
The suppurt wants me to call an expensive 0190-number ;-(
Now, you have to pay for useless informations!
What about Samplitude?
Is it an alternative?
What about working together with SFP?

If you've got problems with SX try the Cubase forums

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: doodyrh on 2003-02-04 13:44 ]</font>

i also loking for samplitude. i downloaded demo and tried. program is great but very unstable to me. samplitude users are satisfied and usualy don't have problems with stability. maybe i doing something wrong, or i didn't do some optimatisation. i don't know.
btw: anybody use xtc mode (or uad-1) with samplitude. how working automatic plugin delay compesation?!

have you upgraded to the newest bios and configured your system as per http://www.musicXP.net?

my multi-boot SX/SFP/XP combination has been rock solid, the first truly stable SFP molecule I have experienced!

-mythalethe

Have you taken a look at Sonar? It is now SFP-compatible.

Shayne

Oh Shayne! Shame, it is not the Topic!

Do Sonar have a convolution verb?

(I know Sonar is very well programmed, as Samplitude is )

On 2003-02-05 16:46, mythalethe wrote:
have you upgraded to the newest bios and configured your system as per http://www.musicXP.net?

Will a bios-update slove problems like group-bug (sx changes group-assign after adding a new groups), Solo/Mute bug, always on top bug (try to type name into kontakt e.g. if always on top is switched on), and, and, and, and.....
My latest bug:
SX hangs after opening a windows-object like save or load-dialog (that doas not appear)

...Seems to be time for a bios update

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On 2003-02-04 13:47, sandrob wrote:
i also loking for samplitude. i downloaded demo and tried. program is great but very unstable to me. samplitude users are satisfied and usualy don't have problems with stability. maybe i doing something wrong, or i didn't do some optimatisation. i don't know.
btw: anybody use xtc mode (or uad-1) with samplitude. how working automatic plugin delay compensation?!

I just received the Samplitude Professional 7 parcel from Magix this evening.

No stability issue with my system, Sandrob.

Tried the Room Simulator, a convolution Reverb. I must say now: THE Convolution Reverb!

This Room Simulator is absolutely incredible. One instance takes only 50% CPU with my Athlon 700 Slot A 1st generation. It is incredible! Imagine with an Athlon Barton 2800+ !...

With my CPU, I can't use the Sonic Foundry's Acoustic Mirror, coz the Acoustic Mirror eat too much CPU! And the Acoustic Mirror is not in surround...

The Samplitude's Room Simulator is better than the Mac's Altiverb, it has more useful parameters (the Altiverb is a primitive convolution verb compared to the Room Simulator)! And the Altiverb is too expansive (50% of the Samplitude Professional 7 price)! Mac is dead! Hardware's reverbs are dead!

And now, I don't know what to do with my SFP's Masterverb Pro...Maybe I'll put it on the garbage can...

Who wants to buy my Masterverb Pro? I'll sell it to you for 100€ (and I know it is too much )

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the best reverb in the world, the Samplitude's Room Simulator! We are in a new era for audio...


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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Grok on 2003-02-07 16:29 ]</font>

ahhgrhhh! i have some job to do and have no time enough to spend with samplitude. i see this is "top of the world" for audio, but i can't found any reverb in demo version of samplitude?!
i tried sir and it's amazing. i can imagine how will work realtime convolution reverb. everybody dreaming about that. i see that samplitude instead of some others similar programs have no limit for some possibilites. only limit is cpu and users imagination.
but i must say that i'm not satisfied with midi in samplitude. i can't found nothing similar cubase's logical editor and drum map?!
also, is it posible to disable 2 little anoying dialogs while and after recording audio?!
btw: if i have more time to samplitude i will ask more for sure, but as i said...

You can use a sequencer for MIDI only and synchronize Samplitude in slave to this sequencer (with MIDI Time Code, better than MIDI clock). I can't remember exactly, but I think there are good free sequencer somewhere...

I understand you for the MIDI part of Samplitude, I'm a little bit lost, too...But I have a little time to improve myself on this topic

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Grok on 2003-02-08 06:03 ]</font>

On 2003-02-07 18:31, sandrob wrote:
ahhgrhhh! i have some job to do and have no time enough to spend with samplitude. i see this is "top of the world" for audio, but i can't found any reverb in demo version of samplitude?!

I wrote the process to test the Room Simulator with the Samplitude's demo here:

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=5&19

I used Samplitude a lot but I still didn´t upgrade to 7.0,Samplitude is great when you work with audio but the sequenzer is primitive compared to Cubase.It is good because it has better performance than Cubase and is smoother working.The automaton is more develloped in cubase ,only vol.and pan can be automated.Right now I work mostly on SX with pleasure and no major problems.My Samplitude 6.0 takes a rest because of crappy WDM drivers is SFP until my money allows to upgrade. (7.0 works with ASIO),but sure when I make live recordings I prefer Samplitude.


Kim

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: kiminet on 2003-02-20 20:41 ]</font>

The automaton is more develloped in cubase ,only vol.and pan can be automated.

Kim

No offence, but: wrong statement

Check the Samplitude Professional 7, coz the Samplitude 6.0 is out to date now...

The Room Simulator is in real time, now...

And so on...

Cheers,

Grok

Ok Grok.I hope you´re right,but I installed the demo 7.0 ,I examined the helpfile and made tests and as far as I can see only pan and volume automation is possible opposite to Cubase SX where almost all knobs ,buttons and faders are automateable.Another automation feature in Samplitude which is nice :the controller automation to automate external gear,that is something different.Still Samplitude is beautiful software but the trees don´t grow into the sky.
Full automation is deffintely something that shuld be in an upgrade that costs so much.

By the way do you know this forum:http://www.kuhrt.dk/samplitude/

Kim



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: kiminet on 2003-02-22 21:42 ]</font>

Ok, you're right: there is automation curves for pan and volume in Samp, and no dedicated automation for all knobs, buttons and faders like in Cubase SX.

But in the same time, there is no need for that total knobs dedicated automation, coz everything in a mix with Samplitude can be automated with these two curves: FX automation, bus automation, auxes automation...And there is also all the MIDI automations...

A little extract of the Online Help of the Sam 7 demo:

"Effects Automation Tutorial

The objective of this tutorial is to add reverb to every 4th snare drum and a single delay repeat of the lead guitar slide to Tutor01.vip.
Although there are a number of workflows which could be used to achieve this objective, automated effects processing is possibly the quickest to implement.
Samplitude currently does not have a dedicated effects automation feature, but as always, where there’s a will there’s a way!...

...etc...check it..."

So: everything that is needed for a mix can be automated with Samplitude, in a quick, simple and logical way. VST automation is not implemented yet, but is definitely on the way.

I see having no special coding for automating every buttons as a possible advantage for Samplitude: the code is lighter and more efficient than the SX code. Possibly it is one of the numerous reasons why Samplitude has a better CPU use than SX, allowing more plugins than SX (an than every others audio sequencers currently in the market).

Remember that Samplitude allows also more tracks on playback and recording than SX.

Other advantage of Samplitude: the Samplitude included FXes ar far superior to the FXes included in SX from a sound quality point of view. Linear Phase EQ, Room Simulator in real time, POW-r dithering, and many more...All the Samplitude's FXes are the best with no compromises.

I read some posts of SX and Logic users in the UAD forum that were astonished by the better sounding they've got with the Samplitude 7 demo. Well, I haven't personally made the comparison.

Regarding all its qualities, I find Samplitude Professional 7 very cheap, and if you buy it you will also receive Video De Luxe 2.0. So for this price, I have now a mixing, recording, mastering and sequencing tool second to no one and also a video editor with wich I can burn DVD videos.

If we had to compare Samplitude Professional 7's price to other solutions, we must compare it with Pro Tools, Nuendo and other Pyramix Virtual Studio, because the sound quality of Samplitude is at the absolute top.

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Grok on 2003-02-23 00:27 ]</font>

Hey Grok, how's the MIDI editing functionality in ver 7? I'm very close to switching my sequencing platform to samplitude 7.

Automation of effects is quite useful.Sometimes I want to fade in or suddently enable an effect (which might be shared by other instruments)
The sound in Cubase SX is much better than former versions of cubase,and in fact very very good.It is different from samplitude but
same high quality.And I don´t understand why people talk about many bugs in SX.My system
runs almost perfect.I prefere to switch between SX and Sam for different purposes.
Unfotunately Steinberg removed some very nice features from the midisequenzer but on the other hand they added some new.
I was never able to serve a certain religion
most of comparable audioprograms are genious.
I worked a little with video deluxe 2.0,and found that it was pretty bad .It is not a professional tool like Samplitude,therefore I bought Vegas video.That is a piece of software for working with video and very easy to work with.

Kim

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: kiminet on 2003-02-23 05:51 ]</font>

Does anyone know where I can get a better deal on Samplitude 7? $999 seems to be the retail price, but I'm wondering if there are shops that sell it cheaper. The company that sold Samplitude in Japan recently stopped selling. (because of the emagic issue)

Maybe this is old news, but I just found out that Samplitude was once bought by emagic, as a bigger brother for Logic audio. (as Cubase has Nuendo) The release was planned to be 6.5, but just as the team was converting the interface to logic style, emagic was bought by apple.

Samplitude must be one of the most politically complicated software. hehe.

Hi Kensuguro!

I choosed the "Sam for Rent" formula

http://www.samplitude.com/de/sfr3.htm

39,9€/month with no crossgrade option (with the crossgrade = send the cover of your soft manual to Magix as a proof of your buying item, it's cheaper); what I see is that it's cheaper for me than my internet cable connection ...

I've put my order by postmail (it can also be done by fax), received my Samp parcel one week later

The "Sam for Rent" saves you more than 900€ of normally chargeable upgrade during the "Sam for Rent" contract (two years)

On 2003-02-23 00:39, kensuguro wrote:
Hey Grok, how's the MIDI editing functionality in ver 7? I'm very close to switching my sequencing platform to samplitude 7.

Haven't got the time to go in deeply...

Check the demo!

Anyway, if you buy it, you will also stay with you preferred sequencer that you can synchronize (with Midi Time Code and Samp 7 in slave, it'll be better than with Midi Clock)...So the change will be done smoothly