Who cares about Noah?

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Tue May 27, 2003 3:02 pm

Who's interested about Noah in the Creamware community?

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Tue May 27, 2003 3:26 pm

Not me.
Software only please.

siberiansun · Post by **siberiansun** » Tue May 27, 2003 3:42 pm

nope, would make a nice breakfast tray or something though.

doodyrh · Post by **doodyrh** » Tue May 27, 2003 4:53 pm

I care.
Don't want one for myself but I'm hoping that by broadening the hardware platform we'll all benefit from the economies of scale in the plug-in market.

BTW. Does Noah run exactly the same plug-ins as SFP or is it a different version like XTC?

(Edit: Hoorah!!! 100 posts in more than 2 years. Is that a record?)

[ This Message was edited by: doodyrh on 2003-05-27 17:55 ]

Post by **hubird** » Tue May 27, 2003 5:09 pm

Doodyrh wrote
Hoorah!!! 100 posts in more than 2 years. Is that a record?

check this and combine the information with the startdate of membership

So yes it is a record, but probably downward...

joking

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huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Tue May 27, 2003 6:03 pm

I am very interested in the B-2003 and Interpole, which currently are only available for Noah.

Also, I look at Noah as another way to expand my DSP power. I can run a synth on Noah while keeping the DSP on my card open for something else.

Not to mention, the deal right now to get three free devices is a pretty good offer.

caleb · Post by **caleb** » Wed May 28, 2003 1:11 am

I am kinda interested - mainly from a perspective of being mobile.

A Lap top cannot hold a Creamware card - so this may be an option.

Currently I'm not really considering going mobile seriously - but you never know.

The other option is that EKO thing. I heard that it can accommodate Creamware cards.

Anyway - all options. I don't think NOAH can load normal SFP synths though which is a bit of a bummer.

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Wed May 28, 2003 2:06 am

I would be (very) interested if - and only if:

1) Noah and SFP used same synths, and I could use a plugin in both environments by just buying it once.
(That also means, I could put an STS into NOAH - and I could put B2003 into SFP)
2) It had a CD-reader
3) It came as a keyboard version (with decent keyboard) - I could use it as my only synth live!

Okay, it would be a good gear to "portable music-production kit" with a laptop, but with the same money I'd get an Access Virus Indigo II - and even have some money left for...well, whatever

Caleb, that EKO thing is not that portable

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Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed May 28, 2003 3:15 am

Not at all, for much cheaper i can get a magma and stick my creamware cards into it before plugging it to a laptop... then come back home and plug the magma back into the desktop. This noah thing will be interesting to people who don't own any creamware gear imo

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Wed May 28, 2003 7:27 am

What is magma?

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Wed May 28, 2003 7:56 am

Magma is a company that makes amongst other things a PCMCIA to PCI adapter.
So you can have PCI cards with a laptop.
It is a box app. the same size as a laptop (slightly higher) which connects to the PCMCIA slot on the laptop.

Voila, SFP to go!!!

Or Protools for that matter, or RME 9652...... or.......
.....or....

The possibiliteis are ENNNDLEEESSSS.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Wed May 28, 2003 3:19 pm

i'm really only interested in the keyboard version as a one stop live solution. No dodgy PCs/PCI cards etc. and hopefully a sequencer on board so i can take my SFP sounds to the people (whether they want them or not). Having the rack version then having to lug around a keyboard too seems a waste of effort to me.

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Wed May 28, 2003 5:49 pm

Noah has one advantage over a PC -- you don't have to worry about PCI overflows.

Shayne

huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Wed May 28, 2003 6:20 pm

Don't forget to factor in the devices that come with Noah - plus the three free SFP plugins. You can look at the Noah as a great deal for all the devices it comes with.

If you already purchased everything it comes with for your Pulsar card - then it isn't nearly as good of deal. But if not, you get:

1. Minimax ($250)
2. B-2003 (probably will be around $250)
3. Pro-One ($100)
4. Six-String ($250)
5. Vocodorizer ($150)
6. Interpole (probably around $150)

This equals about $1,150 just for the devices.

Now - on top of that - you get another three free devices as part of the current promotion, worth up to $750. This brings the value to around $1,800 worth of devices.

Subtract that from the price of Noah and the remaining amount equates to a really, really cheap DSP hardware system.

[ This Message was edited by: huffcw on 2003-05-28 19:21 ]

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Wed May 28, 2003 6:53 pm

On 2003-05-28 18:49, Shayne White wrote:
Noah has one advantage over a PC -- you don't have to worry about PCI overflows.

Shayne

PCI overflows is not a PC's problem. It's a conception based CW cards issue. UAD and TC Powercore don't have this issue...

Post by **garyb** » Wed May 28, 2003 6:57 pm

if you could get as much traffic(as many devices)going with those other cards,you could get pci overflow.pt can do it.

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Wed May 28, 2003 8:34 pm

The issue come from there: there is not enough onboard RAM in the CW cards.

So the cards use the PC's RAM when needed.

Then the PCI port (wich was not conceived for this use) can be overloaded...

If there wasn't this RAM issue, then the CW PCI overflow wouldn't exist...

I'm sure the next generation of CW cards will correct this issue...

rodos1979 · Post by **rodos1979** » Wed May 28, 2003 8:38 pm

On 2003-05-27 16:02, Grok wrote:
Who's interested about Noah in the Creamware community?

Not me! ...the question is: who's interested in Noah outside the Creamware community? I am afraid no one...

[ This Message was edited by: rodos1979 on 2003-05-28 21:39 ]

huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Wed May 28, 2003 9:59 pm

Not me! ...the question is: who's interested in Noah outside the Creamware community? I am afraid no one...

If this is true, the reality is probably that Creamware will not last very long. The effort and resources that Creamware put into Noah will likely cause them to go out of business if Noah is not a success. They have placed a lot of hope in Noah and if it fails, it will probably take Creamware with it unfortunately.

However, I can see the opposite becoming true. There is a huge audience of people who might be willing to try Noah that would not want to mess with PCI cards and computer configuration in general. Creamware is starting to market Noah pretty heavily - with advertisements in major music magazines. They are betting a lot on its success. And we all should hope that success comes if we want to see a future for our Creamware cards.

If you have any friends who love what your Pulsar card can do but don't want to get into the computer configuration hassles - you may want to suggest that they check out Noah.

[ This Message was edited by: huffcw on 2003-05-28 23:02 ]

rodos1979 · Post by **rodos1979** » Wed May 28, 2003 10:25 pm

what you say is pretty logical, and I hope too that Noah goes very well! It will be for our own good too! I didnt know about the advertisements in big magazines etc. I am glad to hear about that!

What I was afraid of is that CW would treat Noah in the same manner more or less as it has treated its DSP cards: make a great product, which it doesnt advertise and doesnt support very well...

P.S. I am really happy with my CW cards and I think they are of excellent quality... a bit pricey though...

[ This Message was edited by: rodos1979 on 2003-05-28 23:27 ]