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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:17 pm
by pkzon2003
hi everyone.
what do you think about the best plugin of scopeplatform?
whatever you think the best! effect or synth
or recording program like vdat!
plz many reponds
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:46 pm
by MCCY
Dynatube!
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:01 pm
by Lima
For me the Sampler STS5000 (a pity for the stereo phase bug...

) and the emulation Pro 12 and Minimax.
But if the statement "the best plugin" means "the one you can't live without" I have to say the big mixers.

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:08 pm
by katano
not so difficult to decide: Warp's A100/P100 as effect for mixing, followed by bx_digital for mastering and dynatube for pure guitar fun...
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:18 am
by pkzon2003
how about vdat?
it has really nice quality than steinberg's
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:06 am
by wayne
STM 2448
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:09 am
by astroman
well, VDAT is just streaming to file what's passed between the DSPs, there's no big trick involved.
It only proofs the outstanding sound quality of Scope, but that's a matter of fact anyway

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yet VDAT could win some big points
if it would flawlessly work with an Alesis hardware controller (BRC Big Remote Control).
This (once expensive) item is very affordable now, as more and more folks get rid of old Adats...
without degrading the rest I'd mention 2 as
primus inter pares
Flexor and QuantumWave
the first as it extends the base system to an absolutely stunning degree, the latter because I cannot but admire how John 'translated' the idea of this complex monster
cheers, Tom
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:54 am
by petal
On 2006-08-23 03:09, astroman wrote:
Flexor and QuantumWave
the first as it extends the base system to an absolutely stunning degree, the latter because I cannot but admire how John 'translated' the idea of this complex monster
I like the Q-wave a lot too, but what idea are you talking about? As I understand it, this synth isn't "modelled" after any other synth or am I mistaken?
I can't say I have any favourites yet, but I do have a few plugins I turn to quite often:
Q-Wave (for Pads and stuff)
Minimax (for Bass)
Vinco (to bring up the volume and the descrete details in any sound)
But I'm still exploring all my stuff so I guess my list is just as much a list of what usually does the job for me, not that that is a bad thing in any way.
I have some stuff coming in:
BX-digital (looking forward to see what this will do to my sound)
SPL T-Designer/Attacker (My beats needs something - I hope this is it

)
And one of these days I just gotta have them Warping reverbs

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:53 am
by astroman
On 2006-08-23 03:54, petal wrote:
...As I understand it, this synth isn't "modelled" after any other synth or am I mistaken?...
from the Zarg site:
Originally a custom project for Hans Zimmer, it is based on the functional design of the Waldorf Wave, using the Creamware Waldorf oscillators and the LP filter from the Pro One emulation (with an additional 12 dB HP filter). It is structured as a 4-part synth, meaning there are 4 individual synths inside the device (this being my first multi-timbre synth project). Potential customers should note that the Creamware version of the Waldorf oscillator does not produce the same quality of aliasing as the original, and therefore you should not expect the Quantum Wave to produce a faithful emulation of the Wave's sound.
It is not meant to be a 1:1 emulation of the Waldorf Wave, though I was able to get most of the Wave's functions implemented, adding or removing some things as necessary with a softsynth design. ...
cheers, Tom
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:32 am
by petal
ok.
I remembered the Hans Zimmer part, but I thought the idea of having 4 more or less individual synth under one design, was Bowens own, which, in my oppinion, is what really diferentiate this synth from anything else. It's this aspect of the synth I really enjoy working with in order to program progressive soundscapes, because it's design is so much more userfriendly, than opening 4 identical synths.
Then there's of course the sound of it too, but I'm not going to get into that here other than it's great!
Thanks for the education
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:22 am
by next to nothing
i dont have q-wave, but i have got solaris which gets my vote for synths. SparC get a honourable mention as well.
For effects, you gotta love SpaceF's Echo 3.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:37 am
by hubird
the best plugin for me is the plug that fits best on a certain job in the song I'm working on...
The one that always does the difficult job of eq-ing the lows of a bass(synth/drum), is the graphic eq.
All those bands in the low region, nothing else has that

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:53 am
by wayne
Ok, ok, Flexor/Solaris/Spacef/Warp69.
so far....
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:05 am
by Gordon Gekko
celmo/spl/d-mute/final liza/creamware/flexor/modular/pro-12/prodessey/mixers/IO/asio modules/
wait... i'll be right back
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:15 am
by at0m
If you ask me for the best plugin, I'd look for something unreplaceable. Mixers are plenty, synths interchangeable. Don't misunderstand, I think Bowen, Wavelength and STW for example have released some extra-ordinary devices.
So for Scope's best devices: I think PsyQ is pretty unique, for example. What I also wouldn't know replacements for in VST-world is some of Orbitone's stuff, like Vorb or the Psy-fi series with their ultra smooth modulation effects.
At the t0p, to my personal opinion, the modular - I couldn't live without it. I wouldn't know how to start mimicking, on full synth DSP devices or in native software, the possibilities offered by basic patches. Or how to do cross-modulations between devices' parameters, let alone more advanced abstract operations. And still, once you have some insight, it's so easy to work with, be it to make new sounds from scratch or to manipulate live feeds...
Then there's more general options of this platform, which we all enjoy, mainly the extra-ordinary connectivity and zero latency, that make Scope a musician's wet dream.
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:52 am
by Liquid Len
Sonic Timeworks P-100 reverb, for best effect.
4 Tap Chorus for best stock effect (you don't have to pay extra for it).
Orbitone's Vorb, for most unique application.
Prodyssey for best synth.
But .. the routing, modular, and real-time capabilities are what really make the system something out of the ordinary...
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:25 pm
by pollux
Dynatube and SB-404... heavy riffs with phat basslines rock!
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:47 pm
by okantah
The Vdat no doubt,& the Vinco,vinco really gives that PUNCH & the compression feel.Also the DSPmic,it's no joke thing.
I don't know which is which to throw away.
exept my wife.
cheers
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:04 pm
by hubird
well, if your wife is the reason for some passionated songs, I wouldn't throw her away! or it must be a 'I hate you' song

but then you have a trouble, how much of those songs can one write about the same woman?
Ok, I know the answer yet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:25 pm
by AudioIrony
Scope platform itself is unbeatable.
For my simple needs, the only plug that I couldn't live without is Celmo's G.A.M.
I also like the Wavelenth synths and some of the stranger effects from De-Vice